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Vladmir Putin letter in NY Times
Aladin:
--- Quote from: DJMR on September 13, 2013, 08:19:41 AM ---
And who do you think the chessplayer is? To me, what you say only makes sens if that chessplayer is able to put himself in such a position if these 2 groups (western europe+usa and Russia+China) eliminitae each other. I don't think any country or any corporation seems to be in taht supposed chessplayer position. Maybe it only is, like you said earlier, multiple nations trying to defend their interest the best they can.
That's why I said we can only speculate
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Explain 2 me rationally then, why an country the size of a midget.
Is so powerful. that no politician, can become a president, without APAIC's approval.
The only US president in recent history 2 be impeached (well he resigned.) Was Nixon.
The latest watergate tapes released show him angry at these zionist (not jewish) lobby:
http://www.jta.org/2013/08/22/news-opinion/politics/new-nixon-tapes-show-more-anti-semitism
Explain 2 me why the watergate scandal was so bad, "because he spied on other politicians"
And Now obama spies on All americans, he gets 2 stay?
Is there logic involed, or is it used as a stick 2 hit Obama if he does not intervene in Syria?
Explain 2 me why this midget state has underground shelters under almost any home and building an Huge underground Hospital.
Explain 2 me why this midget state threatens you and me with the Samson option:
"Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:
We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."
jeanmiche777:
--- Quote from: Aladin on September 13, 2013, 01:34:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: DJMR on September 13, 2013, 08:19:41 AM ---
And who do you think the chessplayer is? To me, what you say only makes sens if that chessplayer is able to put himself in such a position if these 2 groups (western europe+usa and Russia+China) eliminitae each other. I don't think any country or any corporation seems to be in taht supposed chessplayer position. Maybe it only is, like you said earlier, multiple nations trying to defend their interest the best they can.
That's why I said we can only speculate
--- End quote ---
Explain 2 me rationally then, why an country the size of a midget.
Is so powerful. that no politician, can become a president, without APAIC's approval.
The only US president in recent history 2 be impeached (well he resigned.) Was Nixon.
The latest watergate tapes released show him angry at these zionist (not jewish) lobby:
http://www.jta.org/2013/08/22/news-opinion/politics/new-nixon-tapes-show-more-anti-semitism
Explain 2 me why the watergate scandal was so bad, "because he spied on other politicians"
And Now obama spies on All americans, he gets 2 stay?
Is there logic involed, or is it used as a stick 2 hit Obama if he does not intervene in Syria?
Explain 2 me why this midget state has underground shelters under almost any home and building an Huge underground Hospital.
Explain 2 me why this midget state threatens you and me with the Samson option:
"Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:
We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."
--- End quote ---
I can't explain it to you, because I'm not aware of the facts. Using your own logic, someone could come up with a theory saying that you are the one being tricked by the zionist theory into anti-semitism. I'm not saying that is what I beleive, all I'm saying is that you can't use your rationale to go in only one direction. If you think that everything is a chess game and that every politician in the world is being tricked by a third-party, you can come up with the theory that this third party is tricked by a fourth party, and so on. It never ends.
My point is that I don't think it is possible to get to the truth regarding global politics. There is too much going on behind the scenes. We have to stay informed about the events but sadly we can't do much more. I don't beleive in politics at all.
That's why I only said that Poutine is trying to influence public US opinion. Because, that's really the only thing I can say about that letter he wrote. I know there is probably a deeper meaning about all of this, but HOW can we know? Sometimes, when you start having doubt about everything, you can't tell the truth even if it's in front of your eyes. That is the danger with conspiracy theories. I'm not saying that your opinion is shit, you are obviously well informed about the subject, way more than I am. I just don't want to start explaining every event that happens in the world with a theory that nobody can prove so it must be true. It's too easy to loose yourself in all of this.
Aladin:
--- Quote from: DJMR on September 13, 2013, 01:53:26 PM ---
I can't explain it to you, because I'm not aware of the facts. Using your own logic, someone could come up with a theory saying that you are the one being tricked by the zionist theory into anti-semitism. I'm not saying that is what I beleive, all I'm saying is that you can't use your rationale to go in only one direction. If you think that everything is a chess game and that every politician in the world is being tricked by a third-party, you can come up with the theory that this third party is tricked by a fourth party, and so on. It never ends.
My point is that I don't think it is possible to get to the truth regarding global politics. There is too much going on behind the scenes. We have to stay informed about the events but sadly we can't do much more. I don't beleive in politics at all.
That's why I only said that Poutine is trying to influence public US opinion. Because, that's really the only thing I can say about that letter he wrote. I know there is probably a deeper meaning about all of this, but HOW can we know? Sometimes, when you start having doubt about everything, you can't tell the truth even if it's in front of your eyes. That is the danger with conspiracy theories. I'm not saying that your opinion is shit, you are obviously well informed about the subject, way more than I am. I just don't want to start explaining every event that happens in the world with a theory that nobody can prove so it must be true. It's too easy to loose yourself in all of this.
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I agree with you. If we would use only rational. We could never, let me repeat that, Never understand the world.
Indeed there must be a balance, if there is not, it will consume you and destroy you.
But God Almighty had mercy on us and send us guidance through Prophets and guidance through our hearts.
And last not least, the search for truth is a search that anyone should take on his own.
jeanmiche777:
--- Quote from: Aladin on September 13, 2013, 02:31:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: DJMR on September 13, 2013, 01:53:26 PM ---
I can't explain it to you, because I'm not aware of the facts. Using your own logic, someone could come up with a theory saying that you are the one being tricked by the zionist theory into anti-semitism. I'm not saying that is what I beleive, all I'm saying is that you can't use your rationale to go in only one direction. If you think that everything is a chess game and that every politician in the world is being tricked by a third-party, you can come up with the theory that this third party is tricked by a fourth party, and so on. It never ends.
My point is that I don't think it is possible to get to the truth regarding global politics. There is too much going on behind the scenes. We have to stay informed about the events but sadly we can't do much more. I don't beleive in politics at all.
That's why I only said that Poutine is trying to influence public US opinion. Because, that's really the only thing I can say about that letter he wrote. I know there is probably a deeper meaning about all of this, but HOW can we know? Sometimes, when you start having doubt about everything, you can't tell the truth even if it's in front of your eyes. That is the danger with conspiracy theories. I'm not saying that your opinion is shit, you are obviously well informed about the subject, way more than I am. I just don't want to start explaining every event that happens in the world with a theory that nobody can prove so it must be true. It's too easy to loose yourself in all of this.
--- End quote ---
I agree with you. If we would use only rational. We could never, let me repeat that, Never understand the world.
Indeed there must be a balance, if there is not, it will consume you and destroy you.
But God Almighty had mercy on us and send us guidance through Prophets and guidance through our hearts.
And last not least, the search for truth is a search that anyone should take on his own.
--- End quote ---
Which is simply showing us that we need chaos as much as good. I like your rationale.
I'm reading a book about Fidel Castro ''Fidel l'infdèle'' right now. He is full of contradictions, this is quite interesting. But in the end, his influence on his own people were pretty negative as a whole. However, he escaped soooooo many situations where his life was in danger, it's almost impossible. It really is. And each time, it was the weirdest coincidence you couldn't imagine. Almost every important character of his life were related somehow someway. And the way he manipulated his image and his mind in the eyes of the people he knew, it is incredibly intelligent.
In the end, it is hard to read all of that and to beleive all of that, because the way it all happened just seems impossible. How a guy like him could stay alive for so long. So you start having doubts about everything that is written in the book because, maybe there's a chance the story wasn't true. If so, who is saying the truth? You don't know, so you have to start the circle again and again and again....
Aladin:
--- Quote from: DJMR on September 13, 2013, 05:09:36 PM ---
Which is simply showing us that we need chaos as much as good.
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Now you go philosophical one me :)
But it is True.
If you dont have darkness, how do you define light.
If you don't have sadness, how do you define happiness.
we could go on and on....
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