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You can't possibly say that. LeBron score ten more PPG, so the assist numbers balance out if you want to go statistically & as for "whose a better passer"...that's all subjective..."leadership & making others better"...pure ungradable intangible when comparing those two. How can you TRULY say whose better? Magic had WAY more help & WAY more of a complete team than LeBron does now....unless you're going to sink THAT low & say Bosh & Wade are better than Worthy & Kareem. This is getting off topic anyway. I can understand those who aren't willing to say James has eclipsed Magic's accomplishments...but pure skill set it's identical...apparently enough to eclipse Jordan & those who played like him (Kobe).Also the ring argument progressively is becoming more & more of a childish cop out to me. The fuck does it have to do with the skill set of player v. player & who has the better one? It's like saying Derek Fisher is a better shooter than Ray Allen because he has more rings. No one is asking whose accomplished more in the eyes of history...it's all about whose the better pure player.
The only problem I have is that the marketting media has brainwashed the masses and got the sheeple thinkin Jordan is on a level of his own, when he's really just a great in a line of greats who were all the absolute best at what they did
Quote from: NIKCC on September 30, 2013, 04:36:19 PMThe only problem I have is that the marketting media has brainwashed the masses and got the sheeple thinkin Jordan is on a level of his own, when he's really just a great in a line of greats who were all the absolute best at what they did You can say the same thing about today's media brainwashing current viewers about Kobe, Lebron and other players being greater than Jordan, Shaq and stars of yesterday.
It's true though. When it's clear you can't deny Bron's Hall of Fame skill, you just turn to rings. Hence the example of Derek and Ray. It's like downplaying Allen's shooting ability by saying "yeah...but Fisher has more rings".
Again, I said it in my post above. It's not "legacy" I'm talking about. It's who is the better player. If you talk pure "legacy" and "greatness" then MJ is truly untouchable. Jordan's legacy is flawless. Even if Kobe and Bron both walk out with seven, MJ will have the greater "legacy". So it's a pretty silly way to look at things. You always grade intangibles that you can't really prove. It's just a cop out. Like three straight Finals appearances, two wins, two Final MVPs and the favorite to do it again for a threepeat. What about that is a knock on his character? Let me guess...he "defers" and gets his teammates involved...the same as Magic. The same that makes Magic better overall than Jordan lol.
Lol. Daniel Gibson. Anderson Varejao. Stop. Even today I'd take the cast Kobe had in both teams he made a run in the Finals with, MJ's Bulls and Magic's roster over the current Heat roster. But this levels the playing field of what he can do with a proper cast. Very silly. Kidd better than Stockton? Dirk better than Malone? Can you really seeing yourself saying Chauncey Billups was better than Kyrie if he keeps improving, but fails to win in ten years?
NIK, we all know that even if LeBron would finish his career with 10 straight rings, you would still said he's nowhere near Kobe's level
They were second favorites to Boston and only because the East was so weak those years. That team minus LeBron was awful...pretty sure you can look at the 2010-11 season to see what LeBron meant to that team. James is going down as a GOAT no matter how you feel like wording it.