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Chamillitary Click:

--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 24, 2013, 05:39:56 PM ---I knew Cham was going to come in here and defend his hero. All that's left is for NIK  to defend Kobe and this thread will be complete.

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There's nothing to defend or respond to. Those are the facts. It's just the perception Kobe is so clutch because he has game winners.

But to be fair, it's not like those stats say Kobe sucks and LeBron is so good. The stats are fairly close and you can't really go wrong having either one of them late in the game on your team. All I'm saying is the stats say Bron and there shouldn't be a consensus that Kobe is the "no-brainer" pick.

Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 24, 2013, 07:01:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 24, 2013, 05:39:56 PM ---I knew Cham was going to come in here and defend his hero. All that's left is for NIK  to defend Kobe and this thread will be complete.

--- End quote ---

There's nothing to defend or respond to. Those are the facts. It's just the perception Kobe is so clutch because he has game winners.

But to be fair, it's not like those stats say Kobe sucks and LeBron is so good. The stats are fairly close and you can't really go wrong having either one of them late in the game on your team. All I'm saying is the stats say Bron and there shouldn't be a consensus that Kobe is the "no-brainer" pick.

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The question was who do you want to take the final shot it the game and the GMs picked Durant. So Kobe is clearly not the consensus "no-brainer" pick, so what exactly are you trying to refute?. And if you want to bring up facts by using statistics, the article clearly states that none of the top 4 picks are that clutch statistically. Joe Johnson is the most clutch player, not LeBron. :laugh:

Chamillitary Click:
Well I was going strictly Kobe/Bron. The numbers still say he's more efficient than Durant too.

I didn't know it was "last shot", I just read the title of the thread and peeped the percentages. I guess last shot, I understand. They're both better pure "shooters" than LeBron. I'd rather Ray Allen take a "shot" over all three of them though. 

topdogg187:
I think the GM's got it right. I am torn between Kobe and Durant on who I would want taking the last shot i'd probably give the edge to Kobe because of precedent he has set Durant is getting there and might be the best pure scorer in the game today but those are the two that stand out for me with everyone else well below them for taking the last shot. Lebron/Melo to me aren't guys I'd give the last shot to.

Sccit:
anyone who says "clutch" is not real has absolutely no clue what theyre fuckin talkin about...clutch is not just in basketball, it goes for everything in life. it's about when the pressure sets in and the moment becomes real, how do u react? some shy away and defer (lebron), some freeze up and fail (chris webber), and some excel and deliver (kobe)......thats all there really is to it. it could be that one big business meeting that you've been waiting for ur whole life for. if you're clutch by nature, you'll deliver when that moment comes.


now, i can give a fuck less about stats. stats never tell the whole story. never. one can manipulate stats to show that jerry stackhouse was a top 15 player all-time in his prime. bottom line, the eye test is what true basketball purists use. watch the players footwork, mechanics, handles, see how they use their basketball iq, defensive stance, etc...none of the fundamentals show up on a stat sheet. stats are why people think dwight is a great center....it's straight bullshit. watch the games and judge....now, stats can be useful no doubt about it. but those who use stats to paint an entire picture are idiots.

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