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Eve and the forbidden fruit.
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
Y'all know that wasn't really an apple right? Forbidden fruit is a metaphor.
Eve had sex with a fallen angel which was forbidden. Their spawn was Cain. Adams spawn was Able. Cain's bloodline are the royalty you see in place today all over the world.
Fux wit it.
Heinz:
State your sources please.
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Have you read "Fallen watchers" by Jason Guenther?
Should be up your alley.
Aladin:
Iblis (Satan) is not an fallen Angel.
Angels don't have free will. What G_d commands them to do, they will do.
Iblis was something different.
He was a djinn (that is where the English word genie comes from.)
Who are djinn.
They are Created by G_d before humans were created. They are created from smokeless fire.
They still roam around on earth. In the west we call them Ghosts of dead people.
They are also used in black Magic.
But back to Iblis.
He used to be the best of djinn... that is why he was up in Heaven.
When G_d created Adam and ordered all the Angels to bow down in respect to this great creation Adam.
They all bowed down except Iblis.
He said he is made of clay and I am made of smokeless fire. So I am better then him.
For his disobidience G_d will throw him in Hell fire.
But Iblis asked 2 delay that, so that he can show.. that adam and his seed (humans) are no better then him.
And since that day your enemy Satan is out 2 deceive you and make sure that you will join him in Hellfire.
That statement that you just wrote is inspired by him.
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
--- Quote from: Heinz on November 15, 2013, 01:06:49 PM ---State your sources please.
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Have you read "Fallen watchers" by Jason Guenther?
Should be up your alley.
--- End quote ---
I have many sources for my beliefs. There is no shortage of research and material out there to anyone who is so inclined to search.
I have not read that book.
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
--- Quote from: Aladin on November 15, 2013, 01:15:42 PM ---Iblis (Satan) is not an fallen Angel.
Angels don't have free will. What G_d commands them to do, they will do.
Iblis was something different.
He was a djinn (that is where the English word genie comes from.)
Who are djinn.
They are Created by G_d before humans were created. They are created from smokeless fire.
They still roam around on earth. In the west we call them Ghosts of dead people.
They are also used in black Magic.
But back to Iblis.
He used to be the best of djinn... that is why he was up in Heaven.
When G_d created Adam and ordered all the Angels to bow down in respect to this great creation Adam.
They all bowed down except Iblis.
He said he is made of clay and I am made of smokeless fire. So I am better then him.
For his disobidience G_d will throw him in Hell fire.
But Iblis asked 2 delay that, so that he can show.. that adam and his seed (humans) are no better then him.
And since that day your enemy Satan is out 2 deceive you and make sure that you will join him in Hellfire.
That statement that you just wrote is inspired by him.
--- End quote ---
How is my statement inspired by him? It's inspired despite him.
You're arguing semantics and your religious fables interpretations.
We are ultimately saying the exact same thing. The minute details of calling them djinns or satanic spirits etc is pointless and only serves to divide people which is what religion is used for.
The overall essence of what you and I are discussing is the same.
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