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Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: YouKnowWhatItIzHomie on November 16, 2013, 09:11:19 AM ---http://www.youtube.com/v/-csmPmgbuss
In english with french subtitles.
Enjoy ;)
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Interesting analysis but I don't agree with a few of his premises.
First of all his emphasis on Sunnah.. I think Muslims put too much emphasis on Sunnah, but that's a separate subject.
Second of all the idea that America wants Islamic states to emerge so that Israel can claim it is being threatened, I think that's over-analysis. I really don't think America can pull a double-wammie like that.
I also don't think Saudi Arabia ever really supported the Ikwan, as he suggests
Aladin:
--- Quote from: Infinite on November 21, 2013, 12:16:25 AM ---
Interesting analysis but I don't agree with a few of his premises.
First of all his emphasis on Sunnah.. I think Muslims put too much emphasis on Sunnah, but that's a separate subject.
Second of all the idea that America wants Islamic states to emerge so that Israel can claim it is being threatened, I think that's over-analysis. I really don't think America can pull a double-wammie like that.
I also don't think Saudi Arabia ever really supported the Ikwan, as he suggests
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Let me tell you first a littke back ground on the Sheik.
besides islamic studies he studied International relations in Geneva.
I believe that the zionist do want these radicals extremist supported by SA to take over syria.
It is not the first time that the west has done this.
The Wahabi Saudi state is created and supported by Britain.
You should take another look at Lawrence of Arabia.
Let me give you a quik history lesson so you may benefit from it and can apply that 2 our age.
Theodor Herzl an atheistic jew who is the father of zionism.
Wrote a pamphlete The jewish state.
which a subtitle "Address to the Rothschilds."
You read that right... to the bankers family the Rothchilds.
To make a long story short.
He first went to Sultan Abdul Hamid the second (May G_d have mercy on his soul) the Ottoman caliph.
The Ottomans were called the sick man of europe, they were in so much debt.
1896, Theodor Herzl offers to pay down a substantial portion of the Ottoman debt in exchange for Palestine (The holy land).
(It was like a Private banker offering the US to pay your national Debt in exchange for the Bahama's) strange isn't it.
This was the reply form this great last Sultan. Before the Ottoman traitors got rid of him.
"™Even if you gave me as much gold as the entire world, let alone the 150 million English pounds in gold, I would not accept this at all. I have served the Islamic milla [nation] and the Ummah of Muhammad for more than thirty years, and never did I blacken the pages of the Muslims- my fathers and ancestors, the Ottoman sultans and caliphs. And so I will never accept what you ask of me....
if one day the Islamic State falls apart then you can have Palestine for free, but as long as I am alive I would rather have my flesh be cut up than cut out Palestine from the Muslim land."
Theodor understood the message..
Let us forward to WW1. (How and why it started it is to long for me to get into that.)
"The Allies" were on the brink of defeat.
- Russia, was emboiled into an internal struggle between the Bolsheviks and Loyalist.
- France, was getting tired.
Britain, was on the verge of defeat. You read that right.
Let me explain.
The Germans got a secret weapon (why and how they got that weapon is maybe something we need to explore.)
They got the Submarine.
Britain was an Island and was dependent on sea. When the Germans attacked their ships with these submarines.
It was so bad that there was only food supplies left 2 sustain the population of Britain for no more then a few weeks.
meaning they were on the verge of surrender.
At that time the Zionists made their move!
They went 2 the Foreign minister of Britain of that time. Who: Arthur James Balfour.
And offered him an offer which Britain could not refuse in return for Palestine.
The zionist offered him 2 influence the Bolsheviks so that they will continue as there ally in this war.
And Offered them that they would use their influence in the USA (Close advisors of the then president were zionist.)
2 bring the USA in this war on the side of Britain. (USA public opinion was not in favor of getting involved in the internal european power struggle)
Here is the declaration.
READ it closely:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Balfour_portrait_and_declaration.JPG
That is right the Rothchild.. again...
This declaration was signed in 1917.. Israel was created in 1948.
That is 30 years before the creation of the Zionist state.
And 25 Years before the Holocaust.
I believe the Holocoast was a catalyst in order for the Zionist
2 convince the innocent jews that they should adopt their policy.
Because most Jews were not Zionist.
We can conclude the following:
If they back then were planning and scheming 30 years in advance.
you think they stopped planning NOW?
You live in Disney Land.
EDIT: Here is your president @ the grave of Theodore Herzl
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Aladin on November 21, 2013, 01:57:17 AM ---
"™Even if you gave me as much gold as the entire world, let alone the 150 million English pounds in gold, I would not accept this at all. I have served the Islamic milla [nation] and the Ummah of Muhammad for more than thirty years, and never did I blacken the pages of the Muslims- my fathers and ancestors, the Ottoman sultans and caliphs. And so I will never accept what you ask of me....
if one day the Islamic State falls apart then you can have Palestine for free, but as long as I am alive I would rather have my flesh be cut up than cut out Palestine from the Muslim land."
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8)
That is one of the most significant pieces of Islamic history. I had read that before as I am somewhat of an amateur historian on the Ottoman Empire. To really understand the Muslim Ummah today one has to have an understanding of the Ottoman Empire and it's collapse, because it was the last time that Muslims truly held any real power economically and politically. All Muslim leaders since WW1 have had their hands tied behind their back. WW1 was an epic defeat for the Muslim Ummah and the Muslim Ummah has been nothing more than a client state of the West ever since.
That's why I think in some ways Muslims must admit to their defeat they took in WW1 and not keep trying to fight a battle that has already been lost. They are still fighting to regain authority in certain regions, often fighting each other for this power, when the real power ultimately lies with the West. I think they would be better off at this point to just recognize that and stop fighting each other. But Allahu Alum
Aladin:
@ Infinite.
I think you missing my point.
It is not West vs East.
or Jews VS Muslims
Christians VS Muslims.
Not at all.
If we live in the End Time.
And I believe we are.
We will have a divide between people of faith on one side; Muslims, Christians and Jews.... who clearly recognize the deception and will not bow down to the anti-christ.
On the other side you will have people of faith; Muslims, Christians and Jews who will follow the anti-christ. And wil accept him as the Messiah.
That is the divide line. Not Religion.
People with eyes to see, will recognize that there is something wrong in the age that we live in.
@ Atheist, I don't include you not because I believe you don't have a place in one side or the other.
But since you don't believe, then the scriptures can not be truth.
And since they cannot be truth. You have nothing 2 worry about. According to your own logic.
Fraxxx:
--- Quote from: Aladin on November 21, 2013, 10:55:45 AM ---
@ Atheist, I don't include you not because I believe you don't have a place in one side or the other.
But since you don't believe, then the scriptures can not be truth.
And since they cannot be truth. You have nothing 2 worry about. According to your own logic.
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Not quite. For the end of time to come all it needs is enough people who believe in the end of time, unfortunately. Just stay off my lawn and get your apocalypse over with some place else! ;)
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