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heyyou:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on December 01, 2013, 02:04:45 PM ---I want to challenge one premise though, many of these black youths of today were born and raised here. They have not known war
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Maybe not, but they are more likely to be born in a poor family, without a stable family unit, and brought up in a constant state of survival pushing them towards crime and once they get caught in the justice system it's pretty much certain that they stay in it.
virtuoso:
I know there is something really fucked up about the upbringing of said black youth when they shoot a baby in the face
How do you ever really resolve that though?
It is a cultural norm for an African to have more than one wife and many kids with several women, surely, you can't simply arrest that norm?
By the way I never said all but there are over tens of thousands of these fucked up youths, but there is a stark contrast in the levels of crime and violence predominantly in the black/Caribbean areas population and so, while there is no definitive answer, I was interested to see how others viewed this.
Fraxxx:
--- Quote from: heyyou on December 01, 2013, 02:29:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on December 01, 2013, 02:04:45 PM ---I want to challenge one premise though, many of these black youths of today were born and raised here. They have not known war
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Maybe not, but they are more likely to be born in a poor family, without a stable family unit, and brought up in a constant state of survival pushing them towards crime and once they get caught in the justice system it's pretty much certain that they stay in it.
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And it's not easy to ignore the reservations people have just cause you look different. Of course not everybody is a racist. But just assuming that there's only one out of ten for whom different is bad, even then you can expect to experience a lotta shit in your time. My best friend is black and I have heard things... In his words, that means that you have to realize that you mustn't even consider that people could be racist, if it's not just obvious. Otherwise you will go mad, cause everybody who's acting a little weird for whatever reason is potentially a racist then. But of course PoC are no better than white people and that's why there are many who get alienated from the majority society, cause they feel rejected in every situation. Cause people are stupid. Aside from the fact that there is indeed a whole bunch of racists out there.
virtuoso:
Sorry, I am just not buying that, you go to Tottenham and in the predominantly black areas they are predominantly targeting black people.
The violence is so bad that they have specialist police units just for those areas, therefore to bring racism into this just doesn't cut the mustard and furthermore there is plenty of racism directed towards white people too, it cuts both ways.
Fraxxx:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on December 01, 2013, 03:41:01 PM ---
Sorry, I am just not buying that, 1 you go to Tottenham and in the predominantly black areas they are predominantly targeting black people.
The violence is so bad that they have specialist police units just for those areas, 2 therefore to bring racism into this just doesn't cut the mustard and 3 furthermore there is plenty of racism directed towards white people too, it cuts both ways.
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1 That I didn't get. Who is targeting black people?
2 I simply explained how an alienation from the majority society can happen. "you have to realize that you mustn't even consider that people could be racist... Otherwise you will go mad, cause everybody who's acting a little weird for whatever reason is potentially a racist then." Then I called those visible minorities, who can't see that they're hurting themselve before anyone else with mentioned mentality, stupid. Didn't justify anything, didn't blame anyone in particular.
3 I don't know about plenty but that doesn't matter, anyway. You're right, there is racism directed towards whites. And because most people are stupid, no matter what color, they too develope an aversion regarding "immigrants" or "muslims" or so, cause they can't differenciate. I mean if anything, that should make even clearer how that works for the others, as well, no?
I hope you don't take offense when I say that regarding this topic imo you are just as biased as those leftys who think PoC are better people. In the sense that you are emotionally invested which e.g. leads to what you made of my post.
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