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MLB Report: Mariners Acquire Corey Hart & Logan Morrison
Remedy360:
--- Quote from: Halu Sination on December 11, 2013, 08:40:15 PM ---I think they just wanted another proven ace to Felix and Kuma because of their "win now" mentality that they have with Cano's contract. What if Walker doesn't develop into the star they think he will in the next couple years and Cano is wasting away?
Either way you're right though. They still need offense more than they need another Ace.
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Walker's about as sure of a thing as you're going to find, but you're right, you never know with prospects. Still, I don't like the idea of dealing him away for a pitcher. If we could get a big-time bat that would be another story, but I feel like dealing a guy with that kind of upside for another pitcher could be more of a step sideways than forward. Zunino was another name that came up with Price, and the idea of trading a very highly regarded catcher for him almost sounded worse than Walker. Of course I love the idea of Felix/Kuma/Price in a rotation, just don't think it was worth giving those guys up.
TraceOneInfinite:
I follow the Royals daily, but I don't really follow much MLB outside of the Royals, so forgive me if this post sounds ignorant, but...
Is it just me or have the Mariners been really big players in the offseason all the sudden? I mean, seems like they had that leadoff hitter for years and no other good players. They were really scraping the bottom of the barrel. like they weren't even trying to win games and pick up good players... now all the sudden they are making boss moves. They have been very active this offseason, right?
They picked up..
Cano?
Will Smith from the Royals
Corey Hart
Logan Morrison
What else?
MistaNova:
--- Quote from: Infinite... Me Against The World on December 12, 2013, 03:04:34 AM ---I follow the Royals daily, but I don't really follow much MLB outside of the Royals, so forgive me if this post sounds ignorant, but...
Is it just me or have the Mariners been really big players in the offseason all the sudden? I mean, seems like they had that leadoff hitter for years and no other good players. They were really scraping the bottom of the barrel. like they weren't even trying to win games and pick up good players... now all the sudden they are making boss moves. They have been very active this offseason, right?
They picked up..
Cano?
Will Smith from the Royals
Corey Hart
Logan Morrison
What else?
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The thing about the Mariners is that they signed a lucrative TV deal with DirecTV that was worth roughly $2 billion. While that's nowhere near Yankees or Dodgers territory, thanks to that money they were able to extend Felix Hernandez and be legitmate suitors (at least finanically) for prized free agents in the past like Prince Fielder and Josh Hamilton.
That said however the only "boss move" the Mariners have done this winter is sign Cano to that bloated contract. They need some more offense and acquire someone even casual baseball fans actually have heard of. And they have the money and prospects to do it, only problem is that hitters tend to avoid Seattle like the plague for fear of becoming the next Adrian Beltre (HoF hitter whose career practically dies after signing with Seattle).
And in case you're wondering the Royals are currently in a pretty bad, if not horrible, TV deal that's limiting them. Last I checked the deal is until sometime in 2019, so in 2019 or 2020 the Royals might be the ones spending big money on overrated players.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Iveus on December 12, 2013, 11:44:46 AM ---
The thing about the Mariners is that they signed a lucrative TV deal with DirecTV that was worth roughly $2 billion. While that's nowhere near Yankees or Dodgers territory, thanks to that money they were able to extend Felix Hernandez and be legitmate suitors (at least finanically) for prized free agents in the past like Prince Fielder and Josh Hamilton.
That said however the only "boss move" the Mariners have done this winter is sign Cano to that bloated contract. They need some more offense and acquire someone even casual baseball fans actually have heard of. And they have the money and prospects to do it, only problem is that hitters tend to avoid Seattle like the plague for fear of becoming the next Adrian Beltre (HoF hitter whose career practically dies after signing with Seattle).
And in case you're wondering the Royals are currently in a pretty bad, if not horrible, TV deal that's limiting them. Last I checked the deal is until sometime in 2019, so in 2019 or 2020 the Royals might be the ones spending big money on overrated players.
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Good info.. still seems kind of pathetic to me that the Royals and Mariners have owners that have to depend on TV contracts to have the ability to go out and sign a player that other cities have at least heard of, lol. I mean... David Glass is a billionaire Chairman of Wall-Mart, so picturing him waiting around for a TV Deal to come through so he can spend some money in 2019 seems kind of ridiculous but I don't doubt that that it's true. In fact, he's such a tightass I could seem him just pocketing the extra money.
Ewing Kaufman was the Royals old owner when the won the World Series, he was a rich Jew like the Hunt family is that owns the Chiefs. The Jewish owners seem to make the best owners because they have the money and they have the connections/ties to other influential Jews in the industry and that's how deals get done.
..aside from business...
You mentioned Prince Fielder, wasn't he already traded by Detroit to someone else? So are you talking about next year that you think the Mariners will make a move for him?
And Cano may have been Seatles only big name signing but it seems they've been very active in the trade market, as if they have a new GM or something that's serious about winning was my first thought.. but turns out maybe they are just more active cause of the TV money
Halu Sination:
--- Quote from: Infinite... Me Against The World on December 12, 2013, 05:14:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Iveus on December 12, 2013, 11:44:46 AM ---
The thing about the Mariners is that they signed a lucrative TV deal with DirecTV that was worth roughly $2 billion. While that's nowhere near Yankees or Dodgers territory, thanks to that money they were able to extend Felix Hernandez and be legitmate suitors (at least finanically) for prized free agents in the past like Prince Fielder and Josh Hamilton.
That said however the only "boss move" the Mariners have done this winter is sign Cano to that bloated contract. They need some more offense and acquire someone even casual baseball fans actually have heard of. And they have the money and prospects to do it, only problem is that hitters tend to avoid Seattle like the plague for fear of becoming the next Adrian Beltre (HoF hitter whose career practically dies after signing with Seattle).
And in case you're wondering the Royals are currently in a pretty bad, if not horrible, TV deal that's limiting them. Last I checked the deal is until sometime in 2019, so in 2019 or 2020 the Royals might be the ones spending big money on overrated players.
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Good info.. still seems kind of pathetic to me that the Royals and Mariners have owners that have to depend on TV contracts to have the ability to go out and sign a player that other cities have at least heard of, lol. I mean... David Glass is a billionaire Chairman of Wall-Mart, so picturing him waiting around for a TV Deal to come through so he can spend some money in 2019 seems kind of ridiculous but I don't doubt that that it's true. In fact, he's such a tightass I could seem him just pocketing the extra money.
Ewing Kaufman was the Royals old owner when the won the World Series, he was a rich Jew like the Hunt family is that owns the Chiefs. The Jewish owners seem to make the best owners because they have the money and they have the connections/ties to other influential Jews in the industry and that's how deals get done.
..aside from business...
You mentioned Prince Fielder, wasn't he already traded by Detroit to someone else? So are you talking about next year that you think the Mariners will make a move for him?
And Cano may have been Seatles only big name signing but it seems they've been very active in the trade market, as if they have a new GM or something that's serious about winning was my first thought.. but turns out maybe they are just more active cause of the TV money
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It typically doesn't really matter how rich MLB owners are, they typically penny pinch more than you think because there is no salary cap in MLB and they don't want to end up getting carried away and paying too much in luxury tax. Hell look at the Dodgers. Guggenheim Partners come out and go "Lol we'll take on any fat ass contract we can get, we're the richest team in baseball" and then one year later they go "holy shit we got taxed a lot of money, time to slow down." Before sending Kinsler to Detroit, Texas tried to ship him to Dodgers and Dodgers said no and ended up signing Alex Guerrero from Cuba instead. Now they're willing to overpay for an unproven foreign player whose stats in the Dominican League weren't even that good instead of overpaying for a proven (overrated but proven) all-star 2B just to save money. If Guerrero doesn't pan out well then Dodgers shot themselves in the foot big time.
He mentioned Prince Fielder and Josh Hamilton because Mariners made a big run in signing both of them. They were unable to make anything happen because most sluggers don't want to play for Seattle because it's not a hitter friendly park.
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