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I was talking to an old friend who is a fag..
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: LooN3y on January 24, 2014, 11:59:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: BG Rapsodie on January 24, 2014, 10:07:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on January 24, 2014, 09:48:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: BG Rapsodie on January 24, 2014, 09:20:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: A.Geesta'z on January 15, 2014, 01:51:28 PM ---You know what Roger, you chose to be gay, i dont believe in that bullshit you were born gay, thats every gay persons excuse and tries to blame there parents or some shit, i said God put you on this earth with dick and balls and a mind to either like woman or like men and you chose to like men, i think if you use that excuse you were born gay then there is something mentally wrong with you..."
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No offense, but when I hear you say "a mind to like either women or men" that screams bisexual to me. Because from my perspective, it can't possibly be a choice. I couldn't conceive of ever doing anything sexual with another man. Maybe to save a family members life, that's about it. I didn't choose to be straight, I just am. Doing shit with another man is a completely unappealing prospect.
Being gay isn't so much about the act of fucking another man as it is whether the thought is in your mind.
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call me homophobic but that was disgustingly gay
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Nah I'd call you in the closet. If you think about gay shit, you're gay. You don't magically become gay upon acting on it.
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eh?
im saying having the though of it is fucking disgusting.
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That's the point. AG is making it out like being straight or gay is something you choose to do. Its not. You're either into gay shit (which makes you gay or bi) or you find it disgusting (which makes you straight).
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Fraxxx on January 27, 2014, 05:12:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on January 27, 2014, 04:05:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Fraxxx on January 27, 2014, 04:12:30 AM ---Okay, let's just assume I didn't come up with any valid points against zoophilia. We weren't discussing it in the first place. I know why you brought it up, feel free to start a new thread about it if you think it's worth a discussion. Here it definitely seems more like an attempt to obscure that you're running low on arguments regarding the actual topic. Please don't tell me that I have to type out why the one thing being okay doesn't automatically means the other's okay, too.
So, do you have anything else?
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my point is that just because something doesn't harm some1 doesn't mean it's not immoral or unnatural... i dont need an argument for why sex was meant to be between a man and a woman, because it's quite obvious. like loonely said, if gay sex was natural, then men would be able to conceive through fucking. obviously, thats not the case. sometimes, the most obvious things go over peoples head. why can fags not have children? i'm pretty sure they'd lead a much happier life if they could live normal and mate together like straights, no? the answer is in God, and since you most likely don't believe in God, this debate is pointless.
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It's still not unnatural. Cause it happens A LOT with many different species. We been there but you seem to forget. And "meant to be" says nothing. Man wasn't meant to fly, too.
And like I said before:
"I know Muslims and Christians or other spiritual people that have no problem at all with homosexuality and none of them is uncomfortable with (let's be honest, it's only about men anyway) gays."
So it's obviously NOT about god per se.
And still this:
"You can believe what you want but you can't use personal belief in place of a rational argument. That doesn't hold any weight at all. Most people would consider you being bound to go to hell anyway. Wrong god and all. That's why every religion-based argument is extremly random and subjective, cause there are millions of other people that would beg to differ on any given topic with the same point: "God says so!""
We argue this whole time and all of a sudden you don't need an argument anymore? It seems more like you can't come up with anything besides your personal disapproval.
I know that this debate is pointless in terms of convincing you. And believe me, I don't even really care if you like gay people or not (we're obviously not talking about lesbians?).
It simply bothers me when people are so unbelievably condemning towards others and act like they are talking facts and what remains after a little discussion is pure, unfounded opinion. And that is clearly not enough to tell others how to live their lives, so all I hope for is that such discussions make some people realize that they don't have the right to do so.
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so according to you, dogs fucking humans is natural too...as u know, in nature, dogs hump anything that moves. they enjoy poundin some tight pussy, human or animal, don't matter. still not a natural form of sex, in my opinion.
also, in nature, a lot of animals dabble in incest....still not narural to me.
and in nature, many animals are known to fuck underaged animals......duno how natural that is. all that tells me is that these same evils take place in nature as well.
and you're having trouble admitting to it, but i can still tell u dont believe in God...dont bring up examples from other religious cats who think homosexuality is perfectly normal, because that doesnt really prove anything. i can see where your power comes from, and if it aint from God, then we clearly aint on the same page. at the end of the day, i have no problems with gay people...i just dont agree with it and truly believe God is against it in any way shape or form.
un0mic:
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Fraxxx:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on January 27, 2014, 07:42:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Fraxxx on January 27, 2014, 05:12:18 PM ---
It's still not unnatural. Cause it happens A LOT with many different species. We been there but you seem to forget. And "meant to be" says nothing. Man wasn't meant to fly, too.
And like I said before:
"I know Muslims and Christians or other spiritual people that have no problem at all with homosexuality and none of them is uncomfortable with (let's be honest, it's only about men anyway) gays."
So it's obviously NOT about god per se.
And still this:
"You can believe what you want but you can't use personal belief in place of a rational argument. That doesn't hold any weight at all. Most people would consider you being bound to go to hell anyway. Wrong god and all. That's why every religion-based argument is extremly random and subjective, cause there are millions of other people that would beg to differ on any given topic with the same point: "God says so!""
We argue this whole time and all of a sudden you don't need an argument anymore? It seems more like you can't come up with anything besides your personal disapproval.
I know that this debate is pointless in terms of convincing you. And believe me, I don't even really care if you like gay people or not (we're obviously not talking about lesbians?).
It simply bothers me when people are so unbelievably condemning towards others and act like they are talking facts and what remains after a little discussion is pure, unfounded opinion. And that is clearly not enough to tell others how to live their lives, so all I hope for is that such discussions make some people realize that they don't have the right to do so.
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so according to you, dogs fucking humans is natural too...as u know, in nature, dogs hump anything that moves. they enjoy poundin some tight pussy, human or animal, don't matter. still not a natural form of sex, in my opinion.
also, in nature, a lot of animals dabble in incest....still not narural to me.
and in nature, many animals are known to fuck underaged animals......duno how natural that is. all that tells me is that these same evils take place in nature as well.
and you're having trouble admitting to it, but i can still tell u dont believe in God...dont bring up examples from other religious cats who think homosexuality is perfectly normal, because that doesnt really prove anything. i can see where your power comes from, and if it aint from God, then we clearly aint on the same page. at the end of the day, i have no problems with gay people...i just dont agree with it and truly believe God is against it in any way shape or form.
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I try one more time cause it's not that hard to understand, after all. Sadly enough, I already wrote all of this more than one time. In regards of zoophilia:
"I never said that it's okay, cause it's natural. I just disproved your claim of homosexuality being unnatural and therefore wrong. You wanted to make that a disqualifier not the other way around."
So if you want someone to advocate the legalization of sex with animals you gotta go look somewhere else. It doesn't change the fact that you can't come up with anything reasonable against homosexuality in particular one bit.
You're the first one here telling me that I had trouble admitting to not believing in god. I just thought that'd be obvious, also irrelevant. And of course I bring up other religious cats. Cause you said "the answer is in god", like it was simple as that. Since there are obviously other religious cats that would disagree it's clearly not simple as that. My point stands:
"You can believe what you want but you can't use personal belief in place of a rational argument. That doesn't hold any weight at all. Most people would consider you being bound to go to hell anyway. Wrong god and all. That's why every religion-based argument is extremly random and subjective, cause there are millions of other people that would beg to differ on any given topic with the same point: "God says so!""
"And that is clearly not enough to tell others how to live their lives"
In the end, would you please tell me were my powers come from?
Sccit:
what are u tryna say?
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