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WHO IS THE GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME?
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 30, 2014, 07:32:02 AM ---Johnny Unitas and it's not even close.
Johnny on the 80s Niners would have been in the Superbowl every year and won at least 5. Montana on the late 50s/early 60s Colts would have been injured for the season by the 3rd game of each year and have been cut, plus he simply would not have been very effective against legal illegal contact by DBs where he'd be forced to throw outside the hash marks.
Had Paul Brown simply allowed Walsh to get the HC job in Cinci then we may be talking about Ken Anderson like we are Montana, and we may not have ever really known Montana.
Someone please get their hands on some Unitas games and then watch some games by other QBs in that era, and see how far ahead of them he was. It was a much harder environment to play QB in and he looks like a modern QB in it.
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You might be right except Joe Montana had a career 63% completion rating, and had a season with 70%. Montana was build for the short passes of the west coast offense. Plus the only season Montana had more INT's than TD's was the strike shorten year. As for Unitas, he NEVER completed more than 59% of his passes and had 8 out of 18 seasons with more INT's than TD's. To be far most those seasons he was passed his prime. But it is hard to compare different eras. What if Johnny U. played in a offense like Peyton Manning which could highlight his strong arm and he had receivers who were faster than he could imagine. I don't think Johnny U. would do well in a westcoast offense though. It would not allow him to use all his arm strength.
TraceOneInfinite:
As of today it's still Joe Montana. Joe Montana is the Michael Jordan of football. Everyone used to know that when I was a kid. I think it's reverse-racism that got Jerry Rice the #1 spot on NFL networks top player countdown. They thought they would be accused of being racist if they had the All-American white boy quarterback Joe Montana as the #1 of all time, so they gave it to Jerry Rice.
That's impossible. A receiver may only touch the ball 5-10 times a game, sometimes less. How can a reciever be the #1 player of all time?
So, as for now Joe is still the greatest. But if Peyton can win the Superbowl this weekend, and then maybe another 1 or 2 before he retires then he can eclipse Joe cool.
...not to mention the last time the Chiefs won a playoff game was when Joe cool took the Chiefs all the way to the AFC Championship game. Would of made it to the championship if our tight end didn't let a ball bounce off his hands in the endzone and into the arms of the Bills defense. Then next play after the half Montana got knocked out by Bruce Smith. That's the closest the Chiefs have ever been to the Superbowl in my lifetime 8)
DeeezNuuuts83:
Montana for now. Everyone has stated why.
Peyton Manning is great, but he needs to win the Superbowl this weekend to be considered. For me personally, if Brady had lead the Patriots ahead of the Giants when Eli Manning got his first ring, I might rank him ahead, since they'd have had an undefeated year... something not accomplished in decades.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on January 30, 2014, 10:14:53 AM ---Montana for now. Everyone has stated why.
Peyton Manning is great, but he needs to win the Superbowl this weekend to be considered. For me personally, if Brady had lead the Patriots ahead of the Giants when Eli Manning got his first ring, I might rank him ahead, since they'd have had an undefeated year... something not accomplished in decades.
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Had Brady done that, Tom Brady is the best QB hands down and that Patriot team would be the best ever. That's why that Super Bowl was the best Super Bowl I'd ever seen. Because the Patriots were going after history that would have established them and their players in history. It's funny, one game changed that, Montana never had a team that good, but we remember who wins at the end.
DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on January 30, 2014, 10:23:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on January 30, 2014, 10:14:53 AM ---Montana for now. Everyone has stated why.
Peyton Manning is great, but he needs to win the Superbowl this weekend to be considered. For me personally, if Brady had lead the Patriots ahead of the Giants when Eli Manning got his first ring, I might rank him ahead, since they'd have had an undefeated year... something not accomplished in decades.
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Had Brady done that, Tom Brady is the best QB hands down and that Patriot team would be the best ever. That's why that Super Bowl was the best Super Bowl I'd ever seen. Because the Patriots were going after history that would have established them and their players in history. It's funny, one game changed that, Montana never had a team that good, but we remember who wins at the end.
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Yup. If only the guy defending that one receiver had done his job haha... that guy catching that long bomb against his helmet changed the whole momentum and got them the W.
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