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Let me just say this. If we're talking about HUNGER/CHARISMA when speaking about EM and prime, then I'm with you 100%. VIntage EM had the hunger and charisma for all the reasons I brought up earlier. Dude was FRESH! He had so much shit locked up inside, waiting to explode! His personal shit with his fam, his mom and wife. His life etc etc. That VINTAGE Em with the old school style and voice and charisma! If we're talking about that SPECIFICALLY then I'm with you! But if we're talking about the CRAFT...his SKILLS, there is no fucking way I can agree that he isn't in his prime. I just can't. You can't be a genius and not be in your prime. We can't ever bring the past. Those days are CLASSIC EM! Shit that's irreplaceable. But lyrically the dude is still amazing and I think he's probably better from a technical standpoint. And I honestly believe most MC's would agree. Let's not confuse both though. I'm only speaking on his lyrical ability. Nothing more.
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 21, 2014, 11:01:03 PMLet me just say this. If we're talking about HUNGER/CHARISMA when speaking about EM and prime, then I'm with you 100%. VIntage EM had the hunger and charisma for all the reasons I brought up earlier. Dude was FRESH! He had so much shit locked up inside, waiting to explode! His personal shit with his fam, his mom and wife. His life etc etc. That VINTAGE Em with the old school style and voice and charisma! If we're talking about that SPECIFICALLY then I'm with you! But if we're talking about the CRAFT...his SKILLS, there is no fucking way I can agree that he isn't in his prime. I just can't. You can't be a genius and not be in your prime. We can't ever bring the past. Those days are CLASSIC EM! Shit that's irreplaceable. But lyrically the dude is still amazing and I think he's probably better from a technical standpoint. And I honestly believe most MC's would agree. Let's not confuse both though. I'm only speaking on his lyrical ability. Nothing more. charisma is part of the craft, though, thats what i'm sayin....it's a major contributing factor to the entire package. from a technical stand-point, yes, he's in his prime. but overall, taking into account the entire package, like i said, u cant be in ur prime if ur charisma aint where it once was. take shaq, for instance. when he was hungry (lol) for a championship, thats when he was in his prime....once that hunger faded away, sure, he still had the same technical ability...but when ur hearts not goin all out, it just aint guna translate the same. and thats why he fell out his prime so quick. if a player (rapper) lost passion for the game and isn't playing (rappin) wit the same charisma, he's removed from his prime. we basically agree, but we have two different definitions of prime...i think the issue is that u think prime only comes from a technical standpoint, when the technicality is only part of it. but like u said, u only speakin on the lyrical ability, so i feel ya.
The bottom line is that if he's not putting out his best work (which u agree on), then he's clearly no longer in his prime And it don't matter what athletes say about themselves, that should be taken with a grain of salt .. Jordan from the first threpeat was undisputedly better than Jordan in the second threepeat.
Quote from: NIKCC on March 22, 2014, 08:55:04 AMThe bottom line is that if he's not putting out his best work (which u agree on), then he's clearly no longer in his prime And it don't matter what athletes say about themselves, that should be taken with a grain of salt .. Jordan from the first threpeat was undisputedly better than Jordan in the second threepeat. That's not what I said ha. You brought up Shaq as well lol?? It don't matter though. If you think he's past his prime, it's cool. I don't agree with that entirely. I'm somewhere in between and tried my best to explain it. It's just different opinions.
Quote from: LAC/EASTSIDE on March 22, 2014, 04:14:17 PMQuote from: NIKCC on March 22, 2014, 08:55:04 AMThe bottom line is that if he's not putting out his best work (which u agree on), then he's clearly no longer in his prime And it don't matter what athletes say about themselves, that should be taken with a grain of salt .. Jordan from the first threpeat was undisputedly better than Jordan in the second threepeat. That's not what I said ha. You brought up Shaq as well lol?? It don't matter though. If you think he's past his prime, it's cool. I don't agree with that entirely. I'm somewhere in between and tried my best to explain it. It's just different opinions. how can he be in his prime if his best work is behind him?...im jus tryna get ur train of thought here. if u said he's in his lyrical prime, fine, thats 1 thing....but if his past material is better than his current material, that means his entire prime is behind him bru
As for Em, I'm not sure his best days are passed. I feel he's still capable of making material that can rival his best stuff from his early years. I'm sure many will disagree but that's the beauty of opinions.