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Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 02, 2015, 08:47:15 AMlololol, regular season.didn't I post how much I value the regular season and why? I did didn't I? So you know what that means, THIS COUNTS! LeBron, former best player in the world. Missed free throws when it counted and lost.
lololol, regular season.
Scott Williamson "three peated" he must be as good as Kobe now
About to make his fifth straight Finals.Kobe never did it.
Hypotheticals are silly though. Could Kobe have won without Shaq? Without Phil? Without stealing Pau Gasol? If the NBA didn't fix Game 6 in 2002?We'll never know. The road would be harder in the West, but there's no way of saying LeBron couldn't have won.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 04, 2015, 10:32:07 AMHypotheticals are silly though. Could Kobe have won without Shaq? Without Phil? Without stealing Pau Gasol? If the NBA didn't fix Game 6 in 2002?We'll never know. The road would be harder in the West, but there's no way of saying LeBron couldn't have won.You are sort of right, but in this case you can't use this argument. I've always contended that it's the team that wins, not the player. The star player can choke in clutch moments, see Peyton Manning or LeBron's early days. But teams win titles and teammates can lift up a star player when the star can't or wouldn't make the big play. Like Robert Horry or Derek Fisher. So there are many variable s to winning. With that said, LeBron has played his whole career in a weakened eastern conference. It's one thing to say, oh you can't say what if, what if, what if. But no one thinks Rocky Marciano is better than Muhammad Ali, even though Marciano never lost a fight. No one will ever say Wladimir Klitschko is better than Mike Tyson, even though Klischiko has a better record. Why? Because Tyson and Ali both fought in eras with better boxers. Both had to go against the best of the best. Ali fought in the best era of boxing history, and Tyson fought in the 90's against the kids of those who looked up to Ali and Frazier. Aside from the World War II era with Joe Louis, Tyson dominated one of the best eras in boxing. With team sports, no one is really in the conversation of greatest basketball player of all time, because the most difficult period to win was the 80's and 90's. And in that era, eventually Jordan dominated some of the greatest players to ever lace up high tops. LeBron's legacy as we speak, he'll be a first ballot hall of famer, but he'll be full of more questions than answers. What if he never went to Miami, what if he stayed in Miami, could he have made the finals as many times as he did if he was in the west? Those questions will linger over his legacy. He'll be the best player from 2011-2015, the Heatles will be a ESPN 30 for 30 one year, but he wouldn't be up there with Jordan or Magic or even Kobe. He'll be in that next tier, Dr. J, Elgin Baylor, Hakeem. I mean, don't get me wrong, that's an amazing place to be, but LeBron was suppose to be the next evolution of Michael Jordan. http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=311148.msg3007946#msg3007946Always remember who compared LeBron to Dr. J first.