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Peyton Needs to Retire, or ask for a Trade

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Shallow:
I guess you didnt watch this team in December against Cinci or Buffalo. Best team he's had on paper, but the 06 Colts, 05 Colts, 04 Colts would have killed the 14 Broncos. 09 Colts too.

Chamillitary Click:
Well if those teams played this years team in January, there would probably be a tie because this guy just doesn't know how to win this time of year. But regular season it wouldn't have been close. This year's defense is above & beyond what he's ever had. The offensive line is bleh, but still better than any Colts O-line. There is almost no ground to stand on or basis for the statement you just said about those older Colt teams other than being in pure denial & needing to act like Manning "doesn't have enough around him"...like the good old days of losing in Indy.

Not shocked Cinci & Buffalo (strong defenses) slowed him, even though he dropped 28 on Cinci & actually won the game against the Bills. He proved 11 months ago, in the worst game he's ever played that he's not mobile enough to succeed when he is draped in pressure. That's why the Jets hung in there Week 2.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 12, 2015, 08:09:02 AM ---Well if those teams played this years team in January, there would probably be a tie because this guy just doesn't know how to win this time of year. But regular season it wouldn't have been close. This year's defense is above & beyond what he's ever had. The offensive line is bleh, but still better than any Colts O-line. There is almost no ground to stand on or basis for the statement you just said about those older Colt teams other than being in pure denial & needing to act like Manning "doesn't have enough around him"...like the good old days of losing in Indy.

Not shocked Cinci & Buffalo (strong defenses) slowed him, even though he dropped 28 on Cinci & actually won the game against the Bills. He proved 11 months ago, in the worst game he's ever played that he's not mobile enough to succeed when he is draped in pressure. That's why the Jets hung in there Week 2.

--- End quote ---

On paper everything you say is true, but no one other than CJ Anderson played even half decent in this past loss, Peyton included I'll agree. But to say this was a great team that Peyton just couldn't do it with is absurd. They played like shit across the board. Clady has been hurt for a while and has become a liability. DT was dropping routine screen passes, Julius has no clue how to create space or use his size, Wes Welker was missing on easy blitz drops, but he's been off all year. Sanders was running some nice deep routes but those throws are hard to make, and this news of a torn quad for Manning may be why he was throwing the balls so far ahead. Ware and Miller were about as bad a pass rushing duo as there is in the NFL (this game and for large parts of the season). And Talib was letting TY running all around him.

If you want to believe all that is because Manning isn't a great enough leader to make these guys make plays, go ahead. Its simply not a philosophy I buy into. Its not so much about talent. Manning's teams lose the ssame way to the same kind of teams since since first year. His teams have a lt of great talent but when a game becomes a fist fight they don't have many fighters. One of the main reason Elway finished 2-0 in Superbowls and not the 0-3 he started with was Bill Romanowski. If Elway's Broncos had him they may have won a couple of those those 3 losses. They certainly wouldn't have been blown out the way they were.

When there are dirty fist fighters on one team but not the other the soft team almost always loses.

Remedy360:
Hey, at least they got their revenge in the the Pre-Season Superbowl match up. That's what really matters.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Remedy360 on January 12, 2015, 09:36:04 PM ---Hey, at least they got their revenge in the the Pre-Season Superbowl match up. That's what really matters.

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Keep laughing. I just hope you don't lose too many key players in the soon to be monster contract for Russell Wilson. Lynch is gone for sure, but you better hope those monster defensive players don't end up taking off for big money.

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