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96-98 Chicago Bulls Appreciation Thread
Hack Wilson - real:
--- Quote from: Infinite...I'm back, I'm back on March 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM ---
LOl@sccit saying there is no definitive GOAT and that Jordan is merely top 10.
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:laugh: preach
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Infinite...I'm back, I'm back on March 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM ---INice posts, MDogg. And yes, Jordan was hard to coach, he was playing out of his mind but the Bulls still couldn't get past the Pistons until Jackson and Winter really got the triangle going and coached up all the role players. And then later having to coach up the jordan-less Bulls to 55 wins and then later being able to allow dennis to be himself and having harmony with the three stars.
LOl@sccit saying there is no definitive GOAT and that Jordan is merely top 10.
Unlike Sccit, I'm not being biased because I got the one stat to back me up that you don't have. In 1996 the Bulls broke the record for most wins in a season, and then blew through the playoffs and championship to make for the most historic season of all time. Nough said.
The only claim you can make against the 72 win Bulls is the weaker competition argument but look how they dominated the Finals. The Western Confrence was stacked in the mid 90's, Spurs, Rockets, Suns, Sonics, Jazz....those are 5 teams that all could've gotten a championship.
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there is no definitive goat...jordan was simply the most shoved down our throats. stern was a marketing genius and he got u good... plus, all that went down in the 90s, and we know how u feel about that nostalgia-wise....if any1 deserves to be a definitive goat based on stats/career, it's kareem. but like i said, every1 in that top 10 is the best at what they do and are interchangeable as GOAT....the stars aligned for jordan though. he was in the perfect situation on those 90s bulls teams. i mean, like u already mentioned, the bulls almost went to the finals without jordan....you take kobe off the back-to-back laker champion teams, and they dont even make playoffs. but thats a whole nother story....the point is that, yea, 72 wins is excellent. but like i said, the nba was watered down by that time. jordan was being guarded by the iikes of craig ehlo, jeff hornacek, hersey hawkins, john starks, kevin johnson LOL.....those teams you named were good, not great. spurs of the mid-90s? LOL. and also like i said, they didnt dominate the finals, they always won in 6 games, and all the games were highly competitive....72 wins is still impressive, but i'd say what golden state is doin this year in a historically competitive western conference is more impressive than the bulls team winning 72 in a weak eastern conference. and we all know steph curry aint the goat....mdogg is also known to say the opposite of whatever i say. so if i say up, he'll say down. even if his team is the lakers, there has been instances where he rather argue against his own team just to go against whatever i say.. something about me subconsciously makes him feel like he needs to defeat me. but yea, showtime lakers are untouchable, and it's not even close. they woulda won all 82 games if they played in the 90s.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 20, 2015, 08:02:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite...I'm back, I'm back on March 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM ---
LOl@sccit saying there is no definitive GOAT and that Jordan is merely top 10.
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:laugh: preach
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i thought u said bill russell was the goat?
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Infinite...I'm back, I'm back on March 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM ---INice posts, MDogg. And yes, Jordan was hard to coach, he was playing out of his mind but the Bulls still couldn't get past the Pistons until Jackson and Winter really got the triangle going and coached up all the role players. And then later having to coach up the jordan-less Bulls to 55 wins and then later being able to allow dennis to be himself and having harmony with the three stars.
LOl@sccit saying there is no definitive GOAT and that Jordan is merely top 10.
Unlike Sccit, I'm not being biased because I got the one stat to back me up that you don't have. In 1996 the Bulls broke the record for most wins in a season, and then blew through the playoffs and championship to make for the most historic season of all time. Nough said.
The only claim you can make against the 72 win Bulls is the weaker competition argument but look how they dominated the Finals. The Western Confrence was stacked in the mid 90's, Spurs, Rockets, Suns, Sonics, Jazz....those are 5 teams that all could've gotten a championship.
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He forgets the east was stacked in the 90's. We have had a weak east for 15 years, and people forget the east was the dominate conference through the 80's and 90's. The 8th seed in the 1996 playoffs was the Heat, who had Mourning and Tim Hardaway. That was a damn good team and they won 42 games that year. The only reason they were the 8th seed is because of injury problems. The 7th seed was the Pistons and they won 46 games. Grant Hill at his absolute best. People were calling him the next great player in the game in 1996. I mean the east was so stacked in that era. In 1987, when the Lakers won the title, they beat the Denver Nuggets in the first round, the Nuggets were 37-45 and their leading scorer was Alex English, who is in the Hall of Fame, but their number 2 was Fat Lever. The path to the finals looked way different for both teams.
1987 Lakers
Denver Nuggets 37-45
Golden State Warriors 42-40
Seattle SuperSonics 39-43
then beat Boston 59-23, after Boston went through the 40-42 Michael Jordan Bulls, the 50-32 Milwaukee Bucks and the 52-30 Detroit Pistons.
1996 Bulls,
Miami Heat 42-40
New York Knicks 47-35 (coached by Pat Riley and lead by Patrick Ewing)
Orlando Magic 60-22
then beat Seattle who was 64-18
Let's face it, in the 80's, the west was a lot like the east is today. It just was. It was Houston, the Lakers and everyone else. Once Seattle upset Houston in 1987, it was all LA to take.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 20, 2015, 09:45:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite...I'm back, I'm back on March 20, 2015, 02:17:18 AM ---INice posts, MDogg. And yes, Jordan was hard to coach, he was playing out of his mind but the Bulls still couldn't get past the Pistons until Jackson and Winter really got the triangle going and coached up all the role players. And then later having to coach up the jordan-less Bulls to 55 wins and then later being able to allow dennis to be himself and having harmony with the three stars.
LOl@sccit saying there is no definitive GOAT and that Jordan is merely top 10.
Unlike Sccit, I'm not being biased because I got the one stat to back me up that you don't have. In 1996 the Bulls broke the record for most wins in a season, and then blew through the playoffs and championship to make for the most historic season of all time. Nough said.
The only claim you can make against the 72 win Bulls is the weaker competition argument but look how they dominated the Finals. The Western Confrence was stacked in the mid 90's, Spurs, Rockets, Suns, Sonics, Jazz....those are 5 teams that all could've gotten a championship.
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He forgets the east was stacked in the 90's. We have had a weak east for 15 years, and people forget the east was the dominate conference through the 80's and 90's. The 8th seed in the 1996 playoffs was the Heat, who had Mourning and Tim Hardaway. That was a damn good team and they won 42 games that year. The only reason they were the 8th seed is because of injury problems. The 7th seed was the Pistons and they won 46 games. Grant Hill at his absolute best. People were calling him the next great player in the game in 1996. I mean the east was so stacked in that era. In 1987, when the Lakers won the title, they beat the Denver Nuggets in the first round, the Nuggets were 37-45 and their leading scorer was Alex English, who is in the Hall of Fame, but their number 2 was Fat Lever. The path to the finals looked way different for both teams.
1987 Lakers
Denver Nuggets 37-45
Golden State Warriors 42-40
Seattle SuperSonics 39-43
then beat Boston 59-23, after Boston went through the 40-42 Michael Jordan Bulls, the 50-32 Milwaukee Bucks and the 52-30 Detroit Pistons.
1996 Bulls,
Miami Heat 42-40
New York Knicks 47-35 (coached by Pat Riley and lead by Patrick Ewing)
Orlando Magic 60-22
then beat Seattle who was 64-18
Let's face it, in the 80's, the west was a lot like the east is today. It just was. It was Houston, the Lakers and everyone else. Once Seattle upset Houston in 1987, it was all LA to take.
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lol more bullshit...the east was not "dominant" in the 90s. 42 win teams are great now? smh...west in the 80s had the rockets, mavs, nuggets, lakers, blazers. only reason the records were low was because the competition was so much stronger. but u put the sleepy floyd mavs in the 90s or the alex english nuggets in the 90s and theyre easily 50 win teams. then by 97, the eastern conference (and just the league in general) was so damn watered down, you had the bullets, magic (without shaq), hornets, pistons, hawks making the playoffs....all average teams at best. but furthermore, the competition at the top wasnt NEARLY as strong as it was in the 80s...bulls didnt have a top-notch rival like the lakers had the celtics. jazz, sonics, knicks, etc were good, not great .... if u really wanna sit here and act like u think the showtime lakers wouldnt beat any team ever, then ur simply more of a sccit hater than u are a laker fan. but thats nothing new with u...uv been a fairweather laker fan+a die hard sccit fan from the get. i see u.
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