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96-98 Chicago Bulls Appreciation Thread
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 01:19:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 24, 2015, 01:11:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 11:55:05 AM ---lol you tryin too hard now brobro.....look, i see what u doin, and thats ok. just know that i'm hip to your bullshit, and we good. but yea, i'll say it one more time...aint no one fuckin wit that 80s laker team. and ill take it one step further, 80s pistons and celtics too would shit on the 90s bulls. and if u want me to take it even another step further, 90s bulls never even faced a team as tough as the 2008-2011 celtics in the finals....so yea, this shit is goin in circles now, but i guarantee that if u started a poll of 80s lakers vs 90s bulls on any laker forum, it'd be overwhelming in the showtime lakers favor......just sad that u on the other side, but i'll let u do u tho.
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Trying too hard. I basically outlined what would happen. I watched a lot of Lakers and Bulls back then. I took their stats, and put that into what would happen in the game.
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answer why the bulls had to win in 6 against the jazz and sonics, on a last second shot by jordan...........and these jazz and sonic teams would undeniably get swept by the 80s lakers. it's just sad that u call urself a laker fan and argue for the other side so vigorously... and this is not something new to u, it's something uv been known for........................all i can do is shake my head and say DAMN. because u know ANYONE within the laker organization or on that showtime team would say "we'd have our way with the 90s bulls"...but u aint part of that team, not even in spirit. ur on the other side, speakin against ur own. it just shows u dont ride or die with the p&g........now, if it was some obvious shit, like 90s bulls vs 90s lakers, then by all means, argue for the bulls....but this is a hypothetical that i would expect laker fans to see from a laker perspective.....but no, not fairweather mdogg.
showtime lakers woulda ran the bulls off the court......they never faced an offense that potent. not even close. and when they faced teams that werent half as good, like the jazz and sonics, they had trouble puttin em out. AGAIN, it's not even close, really.
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You do remember the Bulls were up 3-0 on the Supersonics right? They lost the next two games just so they can win at home. Everyone at the time even said so. That was the talk of the sports world, were the Bulls losing on purpose to beat the Sonics at home. The Jazz were a little harder to beat, because they were a much better team. They won their first two at home, after falling behind 2-0. But it's hard winning 3 in a row at home, and the Bulls got them and then beat them at home. But I'm comparing just the 1996 Bulls, the ones that were up 3-0 on the Sonics.
As for my fandom. I use to think like that too. I use to think I had to have Magic #1 on all my list. Showtime was the greatest dynasty ever and the 1987 Lakers are the best team ever. But man, I'm older, I see things clearer now and I can be honest with myself. It's damn near impossible to win 72 games in a year, just like it's impossible to win 33 games in a row, especially traveling on a bus. The 33 games in a row could be broken now because teams travel by jets and players are rested by they time they get to an arena, there is talks of getting rid of back to back games. But in 1971-1972, winning 33 games in a row as next to impossible. It wasn't like the ABA was at it's heights yet, the best still played in the NBA, and to win 33 games in the NBA might be the greatest feat ever, even if I think the 1971-1972 Lakers couldn't even beat he 1968-1969 Lakers.
So I have allowed myself to be honest about the history of the game and see the NBA without my Forum Blue shades. And I see a 72 win team that I hated, and I can appreciate what they did and then I can see how they did it. I can see LeBron for what he was the last 5 years, and know that he had a great 5 year run. It's over now, thank God, but it was impressive. And you spent those last 5 years hating the man just because you wanted Kobe to be better. But just look up and see the most physically gifted star in NBA history, then look at his decline before our very eyes, because this is the test to see if he's an all time great. I don't think he is, but it's interesting to see.
So yeah, you may not like it, and all these Laker fans who only remember Kobe being a Laker may not like it. But I don't care. I've been following the Lakers literally since these kids were shitting diapers. I let myself enjoy the game of basketball, I root for my team and I only wish that in the next few years the Lakers will pass the Celtics all time NBA titles number. Jordan can have best player of all time, the 1996 can have best team, but it's unacceptable that the Celtics have most NBA titles. That's were I draw the line.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 01:47:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on March 24, 2015, 01:25:07 PM ---NIK clearly forgot about how great Karl Malone, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton and the great John Stockton all were.
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what would happen in a series of the 80s celtics vs the 90s jazz??
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1984 Boston Celtics beat the 1998 Utah Jazz
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 24, 2015, 02:09:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 01:19:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 24, 2015, 01:11:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 11:55:05 AM ---lol you tryin too hard now brobro.....look, i see what u doin, and thats ok. just know that i'm hip to your bullshit, and we good. but yea, i'll say it one more time...aint no one fuckin wit that 80s laker team. and ill take it one step further, 80s pistons and celtics too would shit on the 90s bulls. and if u want me to take it even another step further, 90s bulls never even faced a team as tough as the 2008-2011 celtics in the finals....so yea, this shit is goin in circles now, but i guarantee that if u started a poll of 80s lakers vs 90s bulls on any laker forum, it'd be overwhelming in the showtime lakers favor......just sad that u on the other side, but i'll let u do u tho.
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Trying too hard. I basically outlined what would happen. I watched a lot of Lakers and Bulls back then. I took their stats, and put that into what would happen in the game.
--- End quote ---
answer why the bulls had to win in 6 against the jazz and sonics, on a last second shot by jordan...........and these jazz and sonic teams would undeniably get swept by the 80s lakers. it's just sad that u call urself a laker fan and argue for the other side so vigorously... and this is not something new to u, it's something uv been known for........................all i can do is shake my head and say DAMN. because u know ANYONE within the laker organization or on that showtime team would say "we'd have our way with the 90s bulls"...but u aint part of that team, not even in spirit. ur on the other side, speakin against ur own. it just shows u dont ride or die with the p&g........now, if it was some obvious shit, like 90s bulls vs 90s lakers, then by all means, argue for the bulls....but this is a hypothetical that i would expect laker fans to see from a laker perspective.....but no, not fairweather mdogg.
showtime lakers woulda ran the bulls off the court......they never faced an offense that potent. not even close. and when they faced teams that werent half as good, like the jazz and sonics, they had trouble puttin em out. AGAIN, it's not even close, really.
--- End quote ---
You do remember the Bulls were up 3-0 on the Supersonics right? They lost the next two games just so they can win at home. Everyone at the time even said so. That was the talk of the sports world, were the Bulls losing on purpose to beat the Sonics at home. The Jazz were a little harder to beat, because they were a much better team. They won their first two at home, after falling behind 2-0. But it's hard winning 3 in a row at home, and the Bulls got them and then beat them at home. But I'm comparing just the 1996 Bulls, the ones that were up 3-0 on the Sonics.
As for my fandom. I use to think like that too. I use to think I had to have Magic #1 on all my list. Showtime was the greatest dynasty ever and the 1987 Lakers are the best team ever. But man, I'm older, I see things clearer now and I can be honest with myself. It's damn near impossible to win 72 games in a year, just like it's impossible to win 33 games in a row, especially traveling on a bus. The 33 games in a row could be broken now because teams travel by jets and players are rested by they time they get to an arena, there is talks of getting rid of back to back games. But in 1971-1972, winning 33 games in a row as next to impossible. It wasn't like the ABA was at it's heights yet, the best still played in the NBA, and to win 33 games in the NBA might be the greatest feat ever, even if I think the 1971-1972 Lakers couldn't even beat he 1968-1969 Lakers.
So I have allowed myself to be honest about the history of the game and see the NBA without my Forum Blue shades. And I see a 72 win team that I hated, and I can appreciate what they did and then I can see how they did it. I can see LeBron for what he was the last 5 years, and know that he had a great 5 year run. It's over now, thank God, but it was impressive. And you spent those last 5 years hating the man just because you wanted Kobe to be better. But just look up and see the most physically gifted star in NBA history, then look at his decline before our very eyes, because this is the test to see if he's an all time great. I don't think he is, but it's interesting to see.
So yeah, you may not like it, and all these Laker fans who only remember Kobe being a Laker may not like it. But I don't care. I've been following the Lakers literally since these kids were shitting diapers. I let myself enjoy the game of basketball, I root for my team and I only wish that in the next few years the Lakers will pass the Celtics all time NBA titles number. Jordan can have best player of all time, the 1996 can have best team, but it's unacceptable that the Celtics have most NBA titles. That's were I draw the line.
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lol they lost on purpose so they can win at home......thats a good one, but not cuttin it. and when it comes to 80s lakers vs 90s bulls, it's not about bein honest....because well never truly know what the outcome woulda been. but to argue FOR the bulls when it goes against conventional wisdom is just a bad look. chick hearn is rollin in his grave right now, do u understand that? it would be one thing if claimin 80s lakers>90s bulls was illogical.....but it's far from, and when ur a fan of one team, thats the one you're supposed to BELIEVE in.......but i guess we simply have 2 different perspectives. like i said, i'll let u do u.....but man, dont let other laker fans hear u.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 03:02:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 24, 2015, 02:09:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 01:19:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 24, 2015, 01:11:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on March 24, 2015, 11:55:05 AM ---lol you tryin too hard now brobro.....look, i see what u doin, and thats ok. just know that i'm hip to your bullshit, and we good. but yea, i'll say it one more time...aint no one fuckin wit that 80s laker team. and ill take it one step further, 80s pistons and celtics too would shit on the 90s bulls. and if u want me to take it even another step further, 90s bulls never even faced a team as tough as the 2008-2011 celtics in the finals....so yea, this shit is goin in circles now, but i guarantee that if u started a poll of 80s lakers vs 90s bulls on any laker forum, it'd be overwhelming in the showtime lakers favor......just sad that u on the other side, but i'll let u do u tho.
--- End quote ---
Trying too hard. I basically outlined what would happen. I watched a lot of Lakers and Bulls back then. I took their stats, and put that into what would happen in the game.
--- End quote ---
answer why the bulls had to win in 6 against the jazz and sonics, on a last second shot by jordan...........and these jazz and sonic teams would undeniably get swept by the 80s lakers. it's just sad that u call urself a laker fan and argue for the other side so vigorously... and this is not something new to u, it's something uv been known for........................all i can do is shake my head and say DAMN. because u know ANYONE within the laker organization or on that showtime team would say "we'd have our way with the 90s bulls"...but u aint part of that team, not even in spirit. ur on the other side, speakin against ur own. it just shows u dont ride or die with the p&g........now, if it was some obvious shit, like 90s bulls vs 90s lakers, then by all means, argue for the bulls....but this is a hypothetical that i would expect laker fans to see from a laker perspective.....but no, not fairweather mdogg.
showtime lakers woulda ran the bulls off the court......they never faced an offense that potent. not even close. and when they faced teams that werent half as good, like the jazz and sonics, they had trouble puttin em out. AGAIN, it's not even close, really.
--- End quote ---
You do remember the Bulls were up 3-0 on the Supersonics right? They lost the next two games just so they can win at home. Everyone at the time even said so. That was the talk of the sports world, were the Bulls losing on purpose to beat the Sonics at home. The Jazz were a little harder to beat, because they were a much better team. They won their first two at home, after falling behind 2-0. But it's hard winning 3 in a row at home, and the Bulls got them and then beat them at home. But I'm comparing just the 1996 Bulls, the ones that were up 3-0 on the Sonics.
As for my fandom. I use to think like that too. I use to think I had to have Magic #1 on all my list. Showtime was the greatest dynasty ever and the 1987 Lakers are the best team ever. But man, I'm older, I see things clearer now and I can be honest with myself. It's damn near impossible to win 72 games in a year, just like it's impossible to win 33 games in a row, especially traveling on a bus. The 33 games in a row could be broken now because teams travel by jets and players are rested by they time they get to an arena, there is talks of getting rid of back to back games. But in 1971-1972, winning 33 games in a row as next to impossible. It wasn't like the ABA was at it's heights yet, the best still played in the NBA, and to win 33 games in the NBA might be the greatest feat ever, even if I think the 1971-1972 Lakers couldn't even beat he 1968-1969 Lakers.
So I have allowed myself to be honest about the history of the game and see the NBA without my Forum Blue shades. And I see a 72 win team that I hated, and I can appreciate what they did and then I can see how they did it. I can see LeBron for what he was the last 5 years, and know that he had a great 5 year run. It's over now, thank God, but it was impressive. And you spent those last 5 years hating the man just because you wanted Kobe to be better. But just look up and see the most physically gifted star in NBA history, then look at his decline before our very eyes, because this is the test to see if he's an all time great. I don't think he is, but it's interesting to see.
So yeah, you may not like it, and all these Laker fans who only remember Kobe being a Laker may not like it. But I don't care. I've been following the Lakers literally since these kids were shitting diapers. I let myself enjoy the game of basketball, I root for my team and I only wish that in the next few years the Lakers will pass the Celtics all time NBA titles number. Jordan can have best player of all time, the 1996 can have best team, but it's unacceptable that the Celtics have most NBA titles. That's were I draw the line.
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lol they lost on purpose so they can win at home......thats a good one, but not cuttin it. and when it comes to 80s lakers vs 90s bulls, it's not about bein honest....because well never truly know what the outcome woulda been. but to argue FOR the bulls when it goes against conventional wisdom is just a bad look. chick hearn is rollin in his grave right now, do u understand that? it would be one thing if claimin 80s lakers>90s bulls was illogical.....but it's far from, and when ur a fan of one team, thats the one you're supposed to BELIEVE in.......but i guess we simply have 2 different perspectives. like i said, i'll let u do u.....but man, dont let other laker fans hear u.
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After they lost game 4, that's what everyone said. They said, watch them lose game 5 so they can win at home. I'm sure they would have loved to sweep. But if you can't sweep, then get it at home. And if they had swept the Sonics and won game 4, they would have went 15-1 in the playoffs, tied with the 2001 Lakers for the best playoff record is history. So let's not act like they struggled against the Sonics. I watched the whole series at the time, and it looked like they just played with them.
Sccit:
that 15-1 is a whole nother story....80s lakers > 00s lakers > 90s bulls
but yea, no one risks a ring by losing on purpose in the finals LOL...even u know that
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