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Quote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussionThe only reason I didn't put it up is because lots of reviews gave it average, 3.5mics, 3/5 stars, etc., which was mainly based off the strength of 1 song. Not saying I don't think it's classic, but as I said, I'm trying to find reason NOT to over use the word classic. Even if I personally agree it's a classic, and fan review sites have given the album 4.5/5 stars, if I can find a reason not to include it, I'm not going to include it. Even if I like the album.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussion
Quote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors
Quote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block.
lol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion tho
Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 01:46:00 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussionThe only reason I didn't put it up is because lots of reviews gave it average, 3.5mics, 3/5 stars, etc., which was mainly based off the strength of 1 song. Not saying I don't think it's classic, but as I said, I'm trying to find reason NOT to over use the word classic. Even if I personally agree it's a classic, and fan review sites have given the album 4.5/5 stars, if I can find a reason not to include it, I'm not going to include it. Even if I like the album. lol what kind of a man bases his thoughts on what another man thinks? are you a heterosexual?? if so, why do u care what another man thinks?? every album you listed has reviews that say it's not classic. THINK FOR YOURSELF.
Quote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:01:33 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 01:46:00 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussionThe only reason I didn't put it up is because lots of reviews gave it average, 3.5mics, 3/5 stars, etc., which was mainly based off the strength of 1 song. Not saying I don't think it's classic, but as I said, I'm trying to find reason NOT to over use the word classic. Even if I personally agree it's a classic, and fan review sites have given the album 4.5/5 stars, if I can find a reason not to include it, I'm not going to include it. Even if I like the album. lol what kind of a man bases his thoughts on what another man thinks? are you a heterosexual?? if so, why do u care what another man thinks?? every album you listed has reviews that say it's not classic. THINK FOR YOURSELF. I also mentioned that if they got 5mics and XXLs, BOTH, then they get included automatically. And it's just an excuse to exclude some albums. And some albums were included because they have heavy influence. So even though they got 4 mics here, and XL here, if they have influence then they are included. DJ Quik, Quik Is the Name, that changed production. The Pharcyde, Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde started the movement of Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, and other more alternative westcoast groups. So I try to give credit to those that changed the game but mags didn't recognize. But for the Luniz, they improved the game, they had a very solid album. But I just need some proof of their influence, other than having the one instrumental that was used my high school years to freestyle over. I tripped out with 8 Miles, because they used that Mobb Deep track, which was classic. But on the west, we always spit over I Got 5 On It. If you can name some artist that the Luniz influenced, aside from L.A.M.B., then I'll reconsider. Because trust me, I want to put that album there, I just don't want to put some shit up there that everyone else will trash like Ghostface.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 02:17:48 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:01:33 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 01:46:00 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussionThe only reason I didn't put it up is because lots of reviews gave it average, 3.5mics, 3/5 stars, etc., which was mainly based off the strength of 1 song. Not saying I don't think it's classic, but as I said, I'm trying to find reason NOT to over use the word classic. Even if I personally agree it's a classic, and fan review sites have given the album 4.5/5 stars, if I can find a reason not to include it, I'm not going to include it. Even if I like the album. lol what kind of a man bases his thoughts on what another man thinks? are you a heterosexual?? if so, why do u care what another man thinks?? every album you listed has reviews that say it's not classic. THINK FOR YOURSELF. I also mentioned that if they got 5mics and XXLs, BOTH, then they get included automatically. And it's just an excuse to exclude some albums. And some albums were included because they have heavy influence. So even though they got 4 mics here, and XL here, if they have influence then they are included. DJ Quik, Quik Is the Name, that changed production. The Pharcyde, Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde started the movement of Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, and other more alternative westcoast groups. So I try to give credit to those that changed the game but mags didn't recognize. But for the Luniz, they improved the game, they had a very solid album. But I just need some proof of their influence, other than having the one instrumental that was used my high school years to freestyle over. I tripped out with 8 Miles, because they used that Mobb Deep track, which was classic. But on the west, we always spit over I Got 5 On It. If you can name some artist that the Luniz influenced, aside from L.A.M.B., then I'll reconsider. Because trust me, I want to put that album there, I just don't want to put some shit up there that everyone else will trash like Ghostface. lmao@questioning whether the luniz have influenced anyone.....youre wayyyy too much bruh. u missed a ton of bay albums, not just that one.
Quote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:20:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 02:17:48 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:01:33 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 01:46:00 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussionThe only reason I didn't put it up is because lots of reviews gave it average, 3.5mics, 3/5 stars, etc., which was mainly based off the strength of 1 song. Not saying I don't think it's classic, but as I said, I'm trying to find reason NOT to over use the word classic. Even if I personally agree it's a classic, and fan review sites have given the album 4.5/5 stars, if I can find a reason not to include it, I'm not going to include it. Even if I like the album. lol what kind of a man bases his thoughts on what another man thinks? are you a heterosexual?? if so, why do u care what another man thinks?? every album you listed has reviews that say it's not classic. THINK FOR YOURSELF. I also mentioned that if they got 5mics and XXLs, BOTH, then they get included automatically. And it's just an excuse to exclude some albums. And some albums were included because they have heavy influence. So even though they got 4 mics here, and XL here, if they have influence then they are included. DJ Quik, Quik Is the Name, that changed production. The Pharcyde, Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde started the movement of Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, and other more alternative westcoast groups. So I try to give credit to those that changed the game but mags didn't recognize. But for the Luniz, they improved the game, they had a very solid album. But I just need some proof of their influence, other than having the one instrumental that was used my high school years to freestyle over. I tripped out with 8 Miles, because they used that Mobb Deep track, which was classic. But on the west, we always spit over I Got 5 On It. If you can name some artist that the Luniz influenced, aside from L.A.M.B., then I'll reconsider. Because trust me, I want to put that album there, I just don't want to put some shit up there that everyone else will trash like Ghostface. lmao@questioning whether the luniz have influenced anyone.....youre wayyyy too much bruh. u missed a ton of bay albums, not just that one.LOL... okay, list the Bay area albums, and why they are classics. Go.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 02:37:02 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:20:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 02:17:48 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:01:33 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 01:46:00 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussionThe only reason I didn't put it up is because lots of reviews gave it average, 3.5mics, 3/5 stars, etc., which was mainly based off the strength of 1 song. Not saying I don't think it's classic, but as I said, I'm trying to find reason NOT to over use the word classic. Even if I personally agree it's a classic, and fan review sites have given the album 4.5/5 stars, if I can find a reason not to include it, I'm not going to include it. Even if I like the album. lol what kind of a man bases his thoughts on what another man thinks? are you a heterosexual?? if so, why do u care what another man thinks?? every album you listed has reviews that say it's not classic. THINK FOR YOURSELF. I also mentioned that if they got 5mics and XXLs, BOTH, then they get included automatically. And it's just an excuse to exclude some albums. And some albums were included because they have heavy influence. So even though they got 4 mics here, and XL here, if they have influence then they are included. DJ Quik, Quik Is the Name, that changed production. The Pharcyde, Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde started the movement of Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, and other more alternative westcoast groups. So I try to give credit to those that changed the game but mags didn't recognize. But for the Luniz, they improved the game, they had a very solid album. But I just need some proof of their influence, other than having the one instrumental that was used my high school years to freestyle over. I tripped out with 8 Miles, because they used that Mobb Deep track, which was classic. But on the west, we always spit over I Got 5 On It. If you can name some artist that the Luniz influenced, aside from L.A.M.B., then I'll reconsider. Because trust me, I want to put that album there, I just don't want to put some shit up there that everyone else will trash like Ghostface. lmao@questioning whether the luniz have influenced anyone.....youre wayyyy too much bruh. u missed a ton of bay albums, not just that one.LOL... okay, list the Bay area albums, and why they are classics. Go. lmao this dude said "LOL" as if he didnt just make a whole list of classic albums and didnt include one bay area album...................STOP IT
Quote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:55:34 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 02:37:02 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:20:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 02:17:48 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 02:01:33 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 01:46:00 PMQuote from: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 12:38:25 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PMQuote from: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PMlol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion thoFor reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block. thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig itbut bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors To be fair, I almost included Hall of Game from E-40, that's his best album and it got okay reviews, the best reviews of his albums. But no one called it a classic, and it had too many features for my taste. That's just me. Luniz had a classic song, I Got 5 On It is an anthem and it's not overstating that they have a pure 100% classic song. It's actually why I accidently put We Can't Be Stopped over Grip It!, Because My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me is a 100% classic song, but the rest of We Can't Be Stopped is a solid album, but not quite a classic.Yeah, as I said, I'm trying to find a way to keep more album off than keep them in. So now, Ghostface, due to lots of backlash, is gone. operation stackola is easily a classic, not even up for discussionThe only reason I didn't put it up is because lots of reviews gave it average, 3.5mics, 3/5 stars, etc., which was mainly based off the strength of 1 song. Not saying I don't think it's classic, but as I said, I'm trying to find reason NOT to over use the word classic. Even if I personally agree it's a classic, and fan review sites have given the album 4.5/5 stars, if I can find a reason not to include it, I'm not going to include it. Even if I like the album. lol what kind of a man bases his thoughts on what another man thinks? are you a heterosexual?? if so, why do u care what another man thinks?? every album you listed has reviews that say it's not classic. THINK FOR YOURSELF. I also mentioned that if they got 5mics and XXLs, BOTH, then they get included automatically. And it's just an excuse to exclude some albums. And some albums were included because they have heavy influence. So even though they got 4 mics here, and XL here, if they have influence then they are included. DJ Quik, Quik Is the Name, that changed production. The Pharcyde, Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde started the movement of Jurassic 5, Dilated Peoples, and other more alternative westcoast groups. So I try to give credit to those that changed the game but mags didn't recognize. But for the Luniz, they improved the game, they had a very solid album. But I just need some proof of their influence, other than having the one instrumental that was used my high school years to freestyle over. I tripped out with 8 Miles, because they used that Mobb Deep track, which was classic. But on the west, we always spit over I Got 5 On It. If you can name some artist that the Luniz influenced, aside from L.A.M.B., then I'll reconsider. Because trust me, I want to put that album there, I just don't want to put some shit up there that everyone else will trash like Ghostface. lmao@questioning whether the luniz have influenced anyone.....youre wayyyy too much bruh. u missed a ton of bay albums, not just that one.LOL... okay, list the Bay area albums, and why they are classics. Go. lmao this dude said "LOL" as if he didnt just make a whole list of classic albums and didnt include one bay area album...................STOP ITI put LOL because no matter what I post, you'll complain. That's why. Listen my dude. Reality is that most people outside the Bay don't listen to the Bay. For me, I do. But when it comes to listing classics, classics are albums that moved the culture. They are albums that other artist listen to and said, that's what inspired me to write rhymes. They are albums that people go out and say, that's why I wanted to do this, or that album is when I fell in love with hip-hop. Are there some people in Oakland right now saying, yeah, that Spice 1 album, that shit is why I love rap music. Hell yeah. But is it a universal deal. The Bay has dominated the indy sense. They have dominated it to the point where you need to have a whole separate section for the Bay and indy hip-hop. Rawkis in the late-90's, Tech9ne, Immortal Technique, the whole Latin Rap sense post-1995. Lots of artist put their shit out indy now, and it's better than the mainstream in many cases. But it has to move the culture, and it's very hard to move the culture when you are pushing 100,000 against an album that's pushing 4 million and gets spins on the radio.This gets into masterpiece vs. classic. Masterpiece is an album that's a great piece of art. Classic is an album that moves the culture. So yes, as fucked up as it is, sales is a huge part of being a classic. If Mona Lisa was the best painting, but no one saw it, does that mean it's still as influential in art? If Mac Mall had a masterpiece, but only a few people bought it, does that make that a classic? As I've stated, I'm trying to take names off, not put stuff in. The title classic shouldn't just be thrown around. It's not like Affirmative Action of rap music, oh you need a classic from every region. Shit, where's my real Detroit shit? Detroit has one of the best hip-hop sense in the nation, Royce, Esham,Mastamind. But again, if no one heard it. Eminem is about as Detroit as 2Pac is Bay Area. But that's my point. Who moves the culture, and what albums influence others.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 01, 2015, 08:57:01 PMI put LOL because no matter what I post, you'll complain. That's why. Listen my dude. Reality is that most people outside the Bay don't listen to the Bay. For me, I do. But when it comes to listing classics, classics are albums that moved the culture. They are albums that other artist listen to and said, that's what inspired me to write rhymes. They are albums that people go out and say, that's why I wanted to do this, or that album is when I fell in love with hip-hop. Are there some people in Oakland right now saying, yeah, that Spice 1 album, that shit is why I love rap music. Hell yeah. But is it a universal deal. The Bay has dominated the indy sense. They have dominated it to the point where you need to have a whole separate section for the Bay and indy hip-hop. Rawkis in the late-90's, Tech9ne, Immortal Technique, the whole Latin Rap sense post-1995. Lots of artist put their shit out indy now, and it's better than the mainstream in many cases. But it has to move the culture, and it's very hard to move the culture when you are pushing 100,000 against an album that's pushing 4 million and gets spins on the radio.This gets into masterpiece vs. classic. Masterpiece is an album that's a great piece of art. Classic is an album that moves the culture. So yes, as fucked up as it is, sales is a huge part of being a classic. If Mona Lisa was the best painting, but no one saw it, does that mean it's still as influential in art? If Mac Mall had a masterpiece, but only a few people bought it, does that make that a classic? As I've stated, I'm trying to take names off, not put stuff in. The title classic shouldn't just be thrown around. It's not like Affirmative Action of rap music, oh you need a classic from every region. Shit, where's my real Detroit shit? Detroit has one of the best hip-hop sense in the nation, Royce, Esham,Mastamind. But again, if no one heard it. Eminem is about as Detroit as 2Pac is Bay Area. But that's my point. Who moves the culture, and what albums influence others. lol what are u talkin about...classic has nothing to do with sales smfh. ever heard of CULT-classics? aka classics that dont get recognized by mainstream media. classic is in the quality, not in the influence. there are many diff typa classics. underground classics, regional classics, etc. etc....and the bay is one of the more influential regions of hip-hop, so please just stop while u still can, because u sayin some weirdo shit right about now.
I put LOL because no matter what I post, you'll complain. That's why. Listen my dude. Reality is that most people outside the Bay don't listen to the Bay. For me, I do. But when it comes to listing classics, classics are albums that moved the culture. They are albums that other artist listen to and said, that's what inspired me to write rhymes. They are albums that people go out and say, that's why I wanted to do this, or that album is when I fell in love with hip-hop. Are there some people in Oakland right now saying, yeah, that Spice 1 album, that shit is why I love rap music. Hell yeah. But is it a universal deal. The Bay has dominated the indy sense. They have dominated it to the point where you need to have a whole separate section for the Bay and indy hip-hop. Rawkis in the late-90's, Tech9ne, Immortal Technique, the whole Latin Rap sense post-1995. Lots of artist put their shit out indy now, and it's better than the mainstream in many cases. But it has to move the culture, and it's very hard to move the culture when you are pushing 100,000 against an album that's pushing 4 million and gets spins on the radio.This gets into masterpiece vs. classic. Masterpiece is an album that's a great piece of art. Classic is an album that moves the culture. So yes, as fucked up as it is, sales is a huge part of being a classic. If Mona Lisa was the best painting, but no one saw it, does that mean it's still as influential in art? If Mac Mall had a masterpiece, but only a few people bought it, does that make that a classic? As I've stated, I'm trying to take names off, not put stuff in. The title classic shouldn't just be thrown around. It's not like Affirmative Action of rap music, oh you need a classic from every region. Shit, where's my real Detroit shit? Detroit has one of the best hip-hop sense in the nation, Royce, Esham,Mastamind. But again, if no one heard it. Eminem is about as Detroit as 2Pac is Bay Area. But that's my point. Who moves the culture, and what albums influence others.
because for me, classic is all about the quality of the content .. if an album is the best at what it does, that's a classic. classics were droppin left n right in the 90s..... not so much nowadays. soulja boy mighta had a bigger impact than mausberg ..... don't mean his shits better. classic is a characteristic of QUALITY.