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KEVIN DURANT'S MT. RUSHMORE
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 20, 2015, 12:55:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 20, 2015, 12:25:10 PM ---HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FACT THAT DURANT HAS PLAYED AGAINST BOTH KOBE AND LEBRON IN THEIR PRIMES AND GREATLY FAVORS KOBE
SORTA HELPS PUT THE BSPN NARRATIVE OF LEBRON BEIN ON KOBE'S LEVEL IN PERSPECTIVE
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Or maybe he's just bitter about losing in the finals to Lebron and wants to play that narrative down ::)
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I think the very little time both players spent in their primes together shows Kobe as a better player than LeBron. When Kobe was in his prime, LeBron wasn't able to get to that level. He played well, but he never averaged 35ppg, only 2 players since the Wilt era did that, and that's Kobe and MJ. Kobe is one of the most UNDERRATED team players ever. EVER. Kobe had to work with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. And he still was able to shine up some shit and make a team out of them.
I'm not putting Kobe on Mt. Rushmore yet. His career has to finish and we have to look at it as a whole to rightfully judge what he did. Maybe being one of two players to get 35ppg in a season, score 81 points in a game, win 5 titles and allow himself to defer to Shaq for a year before he himself started his own run. He led the Lakers in apg during all of the 3peat years. Hell, no one gets on Magic for not scoring more than Kareem during the early years. But no one will really look at that until Kobe's career is over. So I have a hard time judging him against all the greats.
BUT I have no problem judging Kobe against the rest of the living, and LeBron hasn't shown me nothing. If he was truly the greatest player of his era, then his run with the Heat would have netted him 4 titles and 4 NBA MVP's. He'll be lucky to finish with 3 rings and he'll go down as one of the biggest disappoints ever. Especially if they ever find out his baldness is from PEDs.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 20, 2015, 12:55:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 20, 2015, 12:25:10 PM ---HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FACT THAT DURANT HAS PLAYED AGAINST BOTH KOBE AND LEBRON IN THEIR PRIMES AND GREATLY FAVORS KOBE
SORTA HELPS PUT THE BSPN NARRATIVE OF LEBRON BEIN ON KOBE'S LEVEL IN PERSPECTIVE
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Or maybe he's just bitter about losing in the finals to Lebron and wants to play that narrative down ::)
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I don't even think it's that. As far as LeBron goes, Durant views him as his current competition. So it's weird to put him in there. It would be like NIK saying I'm on the Mt. Rushmore of Dubcc posters. I think it's two pretty simple things though.
1. Durant was like 10-12 years old when he saw Kobe threepeat. That's like a memorable thing to watch, probably stuck with him. Then when he finally got to the league, he saw Kobe go back three more years.
2. They play a very similar style of basketball. So now a childhood hero of his, who he watch win rings & probably based his game off of coming up preparing for his own NBA career which has been phenomenal is just getting his due praises.
Bron still has at least three more years of sheer, unmatched, dominance, then at least three more of being a key piece of winning basketball. About to head to his 5th straight Finals this year, then you have the six years (barring injury) I just mentioned. & unless the Cavs bust up & he's back playing with James Jones & Matthew Dellavedova as his co-stars, he'll be the perennial favorite all those years lol.
Especially if you got guys like MDogg saying Kobe's career still has a pulse & "isn't over yet", then you might as well view LeBron like he's in his rookie season lmao.
Hack Wilson - real:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 20, 2015, 01:06:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 20, 2015, 12:55:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 20, 2015, 12:25:10 PM ---HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FACT THAT DURANT HAS PLAYED AGAINST BOTH KOBE AND LEBRON IN THEIR PRIMES AND GREATLY FAVORS KOBE
SORTA HELPS PUT THE BSPN NARRATIVE OF LEBRON BEIN ON KOBE'S LEVEL IN PERSPECTIVE
--- End quote ---
Or maybe he's just bitter about losing in the finals to Lebron and wants to play that narrative down ::)
--- End quote ---
I think the very little time both players spent in their primes together shows Kobe as a better player than LeBron. When Kobe was in his prime, LeBron wasn't able to get to that level. He played well, but he never averaged 35ppg, only 2 players since the Wilt era did that, and that's Kobe and MJ. Kobe is one of the most UNDERRATED team players ever. EVER. Kobe had to work with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. And he still was able to shine up some shit and make a team out of them.
I'm not putting Kobe on Mt. Rushmore yet. His career has to finish and we have to look at it as a whole to rightfully judge what he did. Maybe being one of two players to get 35ppg in a season, score 81 points in a game, win 5 titles and allow himself to defer to Shaq for a year before he himself started his own run. He led the Lakers in apg during all of the 3peat years. Hell, no one gets on Magic for not scoring more than Kareem during the early years. But no one will really look at that until Kobe's career is over. So I have a hard time judging him against all the greats.
BUT I have no problem judging Kobe against the rest of the living, and LeBron hasn't shown me nothing. If he was truly the greatest player of his era, then his run with the Heat would have netted him 4 titles and 4 NBA MVP's. He'll be lucky to finish with 3 rings and he'll go down as one of the biggest disappoints ever. Especially if they ever find out his baldness is from PEDs.
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if Kobe was so good during the ball hog years how come he couldn't get passed the Suns in the first round? ::)
27-7-7 > ball hogging 35 ppg
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 20, 2015, 01:18:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 20, 2015, 12:55:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 20, 2015, 12:25:10 PM ---HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FACT THAT DURANT HAS PLAYED AGAINST BOTH KOBE AND LEBRON IN THEIR PRIMES AND GREATLY FAVORS KOBE
SORTA HELPS PUT THE BSPN NARRATIVE OF LEBRON BEIN ON KOBE'S LEVEL IN PERSPECTIVE
--- End quote ---
Or maybe he's just bitter about losing in the finals to Lebron and wants to play that narrative down ::)
--- End quote ---
I don't even think it's that. As far as LeBron goes, Durant views him as his current competition. So it's weird to put him in there. It would be like NIK saying I'm on the Mt. Rushmore of Dubcc posters. I think it's two pretty simple things though.
1. Durant was like 10-12 years old when he saw Kobe threepeat. That's like a memorable thing to watch, probably stuck with him. Then when he finally got to the league, he saw Kobe go back three more years.
2. They play a very similar style of basketball. So now a childhood hero of his, who he watch win rings & probably based his game off of coming up preparing for his own NBA career which has been phenomenal is just getting his due praises.
Bron still has at least three more years of sheer, unmatched, dominance, then at least three more of being a key piece of winning basketball. About to head to his 5th straight Finals this year, then you have the six years (barring injury) I just mentioned. & unless the Cavs bust up & he's back playing with James Jones & Matthew Dellavedova as his co-stars, he'll be the perennial favorite all those years lol.
Especially if you got guys like MDogg saying Kobe's career still has a pulse & "isn't over yet", then you might as well view LeBron like he's in his rookie season lmao.
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or maybe durant has played against both of them and knows that kobe is head-and-shoulders above lebron....doesnt really take a genius to figure that out. we talkin about a guy who was a rebound away from being 1-5 in the finals here.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 20, 2015, 01:33:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 20, 2015, 01:06:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 20, 2015, 12:55:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 20, 2015, 12:25:10 PM ---HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE FACT THAT DURANT HAS PLAYED AGAINST BOTH KOBE AND LEBRON IN THEIR PRIMES AND GREATLY FAVORS KOBE
SORTA HELPS PUT THE BSPN NARRATIVE OF LEBRON BEIN ON KOBE'S LEVEL IN PERSPECTIVE
--- End quote ---
Or maybe he's just bitter about losing in the finals to Lebron and wants to play that narrative down ::)
--- End quote ---
I think the very little time both players spent in their primes together shows Kobe as a better player than LeBron. When Kobe was in his prime, LeBron wasn't able to get to that level. He played well, but he never averaged 35ppg, only 2 players since the Wilt era did that, and that's Kobe and MJ. Kobe is one of the most UNDERRATED team players ever. EVER. Kobe had to work with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. And he still was able to shine up some shit and make a team out of them.
I'm not putting Kobe on Mt. Rushmore yet. His career has to finish and we have to look at it as a whole to rightfully judge what he did. Maybe being one of two players to get 35ppg in a season, score 81 points in a game, win 5 titles and allow himself to defer to Shaq for a year before he himself started his own run. He led the Lakers in apg during all of the 3peat years. Hell, no one gets on Magic for not scoring more than Kareem during the early years. But no one will really look at that until Kobe's career is over. So I have a hard time judging him against all the greats.
BUT I have no problem judging Kobe against the rest of the living, and LeBron hasn't shown me nothing. If he was truly the greatest player of his era, then his run with the Heat would have netted him 4 titles and 4 NBA MVP's. He'll be lucky to finish with 3 rings and he'll go down as one of the biggest disappoints ever. Especially if they ever find out his baldness is from PEDs.
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if Kobe was so good during the ball hog years how come he couldn't get passed the Suns in the first round? ::)
27-7-7 > ball hogging 35 ppg
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As I've said, it's all up to the team. Which is a double standard when you do put rings in it. But here is how I look at it.
When your teammates are Smush Parker, Stanislav Medvedenko and Kwame Brown, you get a pass. But when you fail to win with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh then yeah, that 35ppg and those playoff appearances look better than LeBron who is a career 27-7-7 but with only 2 titles on some very strong teams. On top of that, when Kobe does have a team around him, he wins. Not saying Kobe is ready to join Magic or Michael, or Russell, but I am saying that when he has a team around him, he helps that team win. He leads those teams. He shines in the big moment. He's earned his spot near the top of the mountain.
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