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Tim Duncan > Kobe
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 27, 2015, 07:27:57 PM ---this m dog guy says MVP's don't count and HIS FIRST ARGUMENT IS ALL STAR GAMES?
:laugh: what a joke
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lol. Oh, trust me, I knew what I was posting. My last stat was haters. Think about that. But both have something in common. It's how the player is viewed by the public. The MVP award is journalist with agenda. All Star games are fans who have favorite players they want to see minus being influenced by David Stern.
But the main point, no matter how you slice them, both are similar in stats. Kobe scores more and gets more steals and assist, Duncan gets more rebounds and blocks to go with a higher shooting percentage. Both are only separated by one year in many end of the year awards. It comes down to preference and how you view greatness. Duncan is a piece of Pop's puzzle, or Kobe is the centerpiece of the Laker franchise.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 27, 2015, 11:34:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 27, 2015, 10:44:06 AM ---One more Finals MVP. Non-debatable.
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kobe would have 10 finals Mvps if he played his entire career on the Spurs
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LeBron would currently have 11. I guess he's better than both.
lol @ thinking taking 25 shots a night would fly on the Spurs.
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 27, 2015, 01:43:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 27, 2015, 12:53:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 27, 2015, 12:44:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 27, 2015, 10:44:06 AM ---One more Finals MVP. Non-debatable.
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Please. One more western conference title for Kobe.
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Kobe is never playing in another playoff game in his career lol
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And Duncan ain't winning another title either.
Let's just get this out the way,
Kobe, 17 time all star, Duncan 15 time all star
Kobe, 9 time all defensive team, Duncan, 8 time all defensive team
Kobe, 11 time all NBA first team, Duncan, 10 time all NBA first team
Their stats head to head are comparable considering Kobe is a guard and Duncan is a power forward. Kobe shoots more and scores more points, and has more assist and steals per game, were as Duncan gets more rebounds and has more blocks per game. But like everything else, they are comparable, BUT Kobe has just the slightest of edges head to head. Kobe is 4-2 against the Spurs in the playoffs, Kobe has scored more points, Duncan has been able to adjust his game to be a piece to Pop's system and Kobe has FORCED the Lakers to bend to fit his skill set.
These two are close, but at the end of the day, Kobe has the smallest of margins against Duncan.
I am still waiting on the LeBron is greater than Duncan post. That's how you KNOW Kobe is better. If Duncan was the best of this era, then LeBron fans would be trying to talk about how LeBron is better than Duncan. Instead they pick Kobe....
The most telling stat of Kobe being better than Duncan. Kobe has WAY more haters than Duncan.
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I don't think MDogg understands how the Dubcc standard works. Only the things that benefit my argument count. Everything I deem unworthy doesn't. Finals MVPs means he was a Finals winner. He has one more than Kobe...Duncan is better. End of discussion.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 27, 2015, 08:38:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 27, 2015, 11:34:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 27, 2015, 10:44:06 AM ---One more Finals MVP. Non-debatable.
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kobe would have 10 finals Mvps if he played his entire career on the Spurs
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LeBron would currently have 11. I guess he's better than both.
lol @ thinking taking 25 shots a night would fly on the Spurs.
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 27, 2015, 01:43:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 27, 2015, 12:53:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 27, 2015, 12:44:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 27, 2015, 10:44:06 AM ---One more Finals MVP. Non-debatable.
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Please. One more western conference title for Kobe.
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Kobe is never playing in another playoff game in his career lol
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And Duncan ain't winning another title either.
Let's just get this out the way,
Kobe, 17 time all star, Duncan 15 time all star
Kobe, 9 time all defensive team, Duncan, 8 time all defensive team
Kobe, 11 time all NBA first team, Duncan, 10 time all NBA first team
Their stats head to head are comparable considering Kobe is a guard and Duncan is a power forward. Kobe shoots more and scores more points, and has more assist and steals per game, were as Duncan gets more rebounds and has more blocks per game. But like everything else, they are comparable, BUT Kobe has just the slightest of edges head to head. Kobe is 4-2 against the Spurs in the playoffs, Kobe has scored more points, Duncan has been able to adjust his game to be a piece to Pop's system and Kobe has FORCED the Lakers to bend to fit his skill set.
These two are close, but at the end of the day, Kobe has the smallest of margins against Duncan.
I am still waiting on the LeBron is greater than Duncan post. That's how you KNOW Kobe is better. If Duncan was the best of this era, then LeBron fans would be trying to talk about how LeBron is better than Duncan. Instead they pick Kobe....
The most telling stat of Kobe being better than Duncan. Kobe has WAY more haters than Duncan.
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I don't think MDogg understands how the Dubcc standard works. Only the things that benefit my argument count. Everything I deem unworthy doesn't. Finals MVPs means he was a Finals winner. He has one more than Kobe...Duncan is better. End of discussion.
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LMAO
Kobe has beaten Duncan 4-2 in the playoffs, therefore Kobe is better.
Hack Wilson - real:
how many of those times did Kobe have Shaq tho? :D
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Hack Brodenheimer on April 28, 2015, 09:31:53 AM ---how many of those times did Kobe have Shaq tho? :D
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How many times did Duncan have Robinson, or Parker and/or Manu?
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