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Quote from: Sccit on May 26, 2015, 01:55:27 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 26, 2015, 12:46:58 PMYou can ask Sccit, when I thought LeBron was the best in the world, I said it. I got in a lot of debates with Sccit over it, he called me a fake Laker fan and everything. I still think LeBron is a top 3 player. But I'm being unbiased. Steph Curry is the best player in the world. It's not even a question with me. I think Curry has surpassed LeBron. Right now in 2015, if you told me to draft a team to win now, and I mean right now, and I can have anyone in the NBA, my first pick would be Curry. Curry is playing better than LeBron, and he's still improving. Give me Curry, less drama, less chocking, better shooting, and he is making his teammates better. You can talk about the system the Warriors run now, but the Warriors were winning with Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson who really didn't have a system, just motivational speeches. Curry is now thriving in a system, but even without it the Warriors were great. And Green is a perfect example of why Curry makes players better. Green in Michigan was a defensive player, he was a big power forward who got rebounds and blocked shots, and against the right opponent he could score. But he went all 4 years of college. You making it sound like he was a blue chipper right out of high school and a high draft pick. He was a SECOND round pick. His ceiling was serviceable forward who can come off the bench and grab some rebounds and give a foul when needed. That was his ceiling in the NBA. But with Curry, he has transformed. He went from projected defensive specialist to now being a defensive stopper who can score. Curry makes Green better. Admitted, you can reaching here. Curry is better than LeBron, LeBron's peak was great but he's on that other side of the hill now. And Curry has 5-7 more years of his peak. if draymond green played with lebron, he'd be rendered useless and out the nba right now....u have to be either a spot on shooter or a lob-specialist to thrive with lebron.You right. LeBron is a lot like Shaq. I think of players like Eddie Jones and Cedric Ceballos, before Shaq they got in the lane and they did their thing. But with Shaq you needed more outside shooters who can knock down a kick out. LeBron is the same way. It's why Chris Bosh struggled to play with LeBron. LeBron takes up so much of the lane, and ball time. If you have a team like the 2001 Lakers with LeBron, then LeBron would do great. I almost think he was designed for the triangle. Lots of ball movement and lots of knock down jumpers. Curry on the other hand is a true point guard who gets the open man the ball and he puts players in position to score. I'm just watching Curry these playoffs, my God, I think he's amazing. All year he's been, but man, he's doing it on this level. Just amazing.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 26, 2015, 12:46:58 PMYou can ask Sccit, when I thought LeBron was the best in the world, I said it. I got in a lot of debates with Sccit over it, he called me a fake Laker fan and everything. I still think LeBron is a top 3 player. But I'm being unbiased. Steph Curry is the best player in the world. It's not even a question with me. I think Curry has surpassed LeBron. Right now in 2015, if you told me to draft a team to win now, and I mean right now, and I can have anyone in the NBA, my first pick would be Curry. Curry is playing better than LeBron, and he's still improving. Give me Curry, less drama, less chocking, better shooting, and he is making his teammates better. You can talk about the system the Warriors run now, but the Warriors were winning with Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson who really didn't have a system, just motivational speeches. Curry is now thriving in a system, but even without it the Warriors were great. And Green is a perfect example of why Curry makes players better. Green in Michigan was a defensive player, he was a big power forward who got rebounds and blocked shots, and against the right opponent he could score. But he went all 4 years of college. You making it sound like he was a blue chipper right out of high school and a high draft pick. He was a SECOND round pick. His ceiling was serviceable forward who can come off the bench and grab some rebounds and give a foul when needed. That was his ceiling in the NBA. But with Curry, he has transformed. He went from projected defensive specialist to now being a defensive stopper who can score. Curry makes Green better. Admitted, you can reaching here. Curry is better than LeBron, LeBron's peak was great but he's on that other side of the hill now. And Curry has 5-7 more years of his peak. if draymond green played with lebron, he'd be rendered useless and out the nba right now....u have to be either a spot on shooter or a lob-specialist to thrive with lebron.
You can ask Sccit, when I thought LeBron was the best in the world, I said it. I got in a lot of debates with Sccit over it, he called me a fake Laker fan and everything. I still think LeBron is a top 3 player. But I'm being unbiased. Steph Curry is the best player in the world. It's not even a question with me. I think Curry has surpassed LeBron. Right now in 2015, if you told me to draft a team to win now, and I mean right now, and I can have anyone in the NBA, my first pick would be Curry. Curry is playing better than LeBron, and he's still improving. Give me Curry, less drama, less chocking, better shooting, and he is making his teammates better. You can talk about the system the Warriors run now, but the Warriors were winning with Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson who really didn't have a system, just motivational speeches. Curry is now thriving in a system, but even without it the Warriors were great. And Green is a perfect example of why Curry makes players better. Green in Michigan was a defensive player, he was a big power forward who got rebounds and blocked shots, and against the right opponent he could score. But he went all 4 years of college. You making it sound like he was a blue chipper right out of high school and a high draft pick. He was a SECOND round pick. His ceiling was serviceable forward who can come off the bench and grab some rebounds and give a foul when needed. That was his ceiling in the NBA. But with Curry, he has transformed. He went from projected defensive specialist to now being a defensive stopper who can score. Curry makes Green better. Admitted, you can reaching here. Curry is better than LeBron, LeBron's peak was great but he's on that other side of the hill now. And Curry has 5-7 more years of his peak.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 26, 2015, 02:01:52 PMQuote from: Sccit on May 26, 2015, 01:55:27 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 26, 2015, 12:46:58 PMYou can ask Sccit, when I thought LeBron was the best in the world, I said it. I got in a lot of debates with Sccit over it, he called me a fake Laker fan and everything. I still think LeBron is a top 3 player. But I'm being unbiased. Steph Curry is the best player in the world. It's not even a question with me. I think Curry has surpassed LeBron. Right now in 2015, if you told me to draft a team to win now, and I mean right now, and I can have anyone in the NBA, my first pick would be Curry. Curry is playing better than LeBron, and he's still improving. Give me Curry, less drama, less chocking, better shooting, and he is making his teammates better. You can talk about the system the Warriors run now, but the Warriors were winning with Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson who really didn't have a system, just motivational speeches. Curry is now thriving in a system, but even without it the Warriors were great. And Green is a perfect example of why Curry makes players better. Green in Michigan was a defensive player, he was a big power forward who got rebounds and blocked shots, and against the right opponent he could score. But he went all 4 years of college. You making it sound like he was a blue chipper right out of high school and a high draft pick. He was a SECOND round pick. His ceiling was serviceable forward who can come off the bench and grab some rebounds and give a foul when needed. That was his ceiling in the NBA. But with Curry, he has transformed. He went from projected defensive specialist to now being a defensive stopper who can score. Curry makes Green better. Admitted, you can reaching here. Curry is better than LeBron, LeBron's peak was great but he's on that other side of the hill now. And Curry has 5-7 more years of his peak. if draymond green played with lebron, he'd be rendered useless and out the nba right now....u have to be either a spot on shooter or a lob-specialist to thrive with lebron.You right. LeBron is a lot like Shaq. I think of players like Eddie Jones and Cedric Ceballos, before Shaq they got in the lane and they did their thing. But with Shaq you needed more outside shooters who can knock down a kick out. LeBron is the same way. It's why Chris Bosh struggled to play with LeBron. LeBron takes up so much of the lane, and ball time. If you have a team like the 2001 Lakers with LeBron, then LeBron would do great. I almost think he was designed for the triangle. Lots of ball movement and lots of knock down jumpers. Curry on the other hand is a true point guard who gets the open man the ball and he puts players in position to score. I'm just watching Curry these playoffs, my God, I think he's amazing. All year he's been, but man, he's doing it on this level. Just amazing. lebron woulda been a role player on the 2001 laker team.....shaq clogs up the lane and is way too dominant to allow lebron's fragile ego to thrive. shaq ala lebron needed knock down shooters on the perimeter to keep the lane open for him to operate. thats why kobe was able to excel with shaq and lakers were able to threepeat. inside-out game. considering lebron couldn't stroke it like kobe, he'd have to embrace a pippen type role to thrive with shaq, and we all know his sensitive primadonna ass would never do that.
That whole east vs. west conference argument is retarded. West is clearly a better conference and East is weaker. We all agree with this. BUT. When Lebron picked East, it automatically meant he'd join a WEAK team in a weak conference. If he'd join west, he'd joing a STRONG team in a strong conference. So if Lebron went to a westcoast team, I believe he'd still be in 5 straight finals. He's just that good these years. Imagine Lebron on any West team that's not completley garbage. Things always even up in the end. Fact is, Lebron is playing with scrubs the whole conference. Love is not playing, Irving has been like like he's on wheelchair most of the time. Lebron really matured and made an average team a great one. I don't know why this is so hard to admit. If anyone argued the Miami team, ehh, alright, but this Cleveland team? Not to mention this whole argument is ridiculous because not one of these NBA superstars won a NBA championship by themself. They ALL had support, they ALL had the team built around them.
Lebron is great like Isiah Thomas was great....not like u want him to be