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Quote from: Meho on May 27, 2015, 02:49:26 PMThat whole east vs. west conference argument is retarded. West is clearly a better conference and East is weaker. We all agree with this. BUT. When Lebron picked East, it automatically meant he'd join a WEAK team in a weak conference. If he'd join west, he'd joing a STRONG team in a strong conference. So if Lebron went to a westcoast team, I believe he'd still be in 5 straight finals. He's just that good these years. Imagine Lebron on any West team that's not completley garbage. Things always even up in the end. Fact is, Lebron is playing with scrubs the whole conference. Love is not playing, Irving has been like like he's on wheelchair most of the time. Lebron really matured and made an average team a great one. I don't know why this is so hard to admit. If anyone argued the Miami team, ehh, alright, but this Cleveland team? Not to mention this whole argument is ridiculous because not one of these NBA superstars won a NBA championship by themself. They ALL had support, they ALL had the team built around them.AGAIN, THIS CLEVELAND TEAM WOULDA BEEN A FIRST ROUND EXIT IN THE WEST. HES NOT GUNA GET THE CREDIT YOURE TRYNA GIVE HIM FOR THIS CAKEWALK TO THE NBA FINALS.
That whole east vs. west conference argument is retarded. West is clearly a better conference and East is weaker. We all agree with this. BUT. When Lebron picked East, it automatically meant he'd join a WEAK team in a weak conference. If he'd join west, he'd joing a STRONG team in a strong conference. So if Lebron went to a westcoast team, I believe he'd still be in 5 straight finals. He's just that good these years. Imagine Lebron on any West team that's not completley garbage. Things always even up in the end. Fact is, Lebron is playing with scrubs the whole conference. Love is not playing, Irving has been like like he's on wheelchair most of the time. Lebron really matured and made an average team a great one. I don't know why this is so hard to admit. If anyone argued the Miami team, ehh, alright, but this Cleveland team? Not to mention this whole argument is ridiculous because not one of these NBA superstars won a NBA championship by themself. They ALL had support, they ALL had the team built around them.
Quote from: Sccit on May 27, 2015, 03:13:28 PMQuote from: Meho on May 27, 2015, 02:49:26 PMThat whole east vs. west conference argument is retarded. West is clearly a better conference and East is weaker. We all agree with this. BUT. When Lebron picked East, it automatically meant he'd join a WEAK team in a weak conference. If he'd join west, he'd joing a STRONG team in a strong conference. So if Lebron went to a westcoast team, I believe he'd still be in 5 straight finals. He's just that good these years. Imagine Lebron on any West team that's not completley garbage. Things always even up in the end. Fact is, Lebron is playing with scrubs the whole conference. Love is not playing, Irving has been like like he's on wheelchair most of the time. Lebron really matured and made an average team a great one. I don't know why this is so hard to admit. If anyone argued the Miami team, ehh, alright, but this Cleveland team? Not to mention this whole argument is ridiculous because not one of these NBA superstars won a NBA championship by themself. They ALL had support, they ALL had the team built around them.AGAIN, THIS CLEVELAND TEAM WOULDA BEEN A FIRST ROUND EXIT IN THE WEST. HES NOT GUNA GET THE CREDIT YOURE TRYNA GIVE HIM FOR THIS CAKEWALK TO THE NBA FINALS. You don't get it. He would've had a better team on West, since the west conference is better. It evens up. You can't just transform the weak Cleveland team to the West conference scenario. You gotta think Mavs, Grizlies, Portland ect.
Westcoast conference is better, you said it yourself. Does a better conference not equal better teams in your world?
Franchise players lmaooooooo. Wade's been on crutches since 2011 & Bosh was ridiculed the entire time.Your logic is so fucked when Kobe's first three rings are because he was the #2 to the most dominate center in history. You can show your little go-to graphic of like 2002 playoff stats (even though stats don't mean anything when the numbers favor LeBron lmfao), but the Finals MVPs don't lie, cuz.Quote from: Meho on May 28, 2015, 01:03:25 PMWestcoast conference is better, you said it yourself. Does a better conference not equal better teams in your world?& yeah, how do you convince yourself this isn't true? Your narrative is this "Oh the Cavs would get wiped out in the West"...but he'd be on the Spurs, Clippers or Rockets & you would just be crying how unfair it is.& your logic is EVEN MORE fucked because you have tons of posts saying how attractive LA is for superstars to come. In a perfect world for you, Marc Gasol, Westbrook & Jahlil Okafor would be playing with Kobe & you wouldn't bat an eye; just trying to explain to the forum how Kobe is "leading" them, averaging 16 PPG as the #3 option.That failed Lakers team with Nash, Kobe, Pau, Howard, on paper before the season was regarded as an unrivaled, unequivocal, hands down the best roster in the NBA. & if Kobe knew how to run the team like Phil did for him & the Lakers coasted all the way that year, that would have just been "#6" & you'd dismiss any notion that the team was stacked.There has to be close to 100 posts, just this year alone, where you wildly contradict yourself.
So to paraphrase that for the people who don't want to sift through your on-going bullshit.Sccit Bayless Logic A - "LeBron needed Wade & Bosh, which is why he's not the GOAT".Sccit Bayless Logic B - "Wade & Bosh = Shaq...but Kobe's still the GOAT."Nigga can't go a complete two sentences without contradicting the last.& lmaoooo, "did it with less in 2010"...just had hands down the best roster in the NBA; equivalent to your Finals opponent. Talk about a cakewalk to the Finals three years in a row. At least even though Shaq ran the show, the Kings were a formidable opponent in the West. 2009 niggas playing Chris Paul throwing alley-oops to Tyson Chandler.