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NIK's dumbest statement during these playoffs??
Sccit:
RUSSELLS HALL OF FAME CAST WAS BETTER THAN JUST WEST
Hack Wilson - real:
so we're pretending Gail Goodrich is jag status now?
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Back 2 Hack on June 17, 2015, 10:07:23 AM ---Baylor didn't play one minute in that finals and you know it so you blow it off with "doesn't matter" ;D
that's like saying Nomar deserves a ring for the 2004 red sox world series - no he doesn't. he has one but didn't earn it.
if you put Russell on a team with West they'd have won a lot more than 0 titles ;D
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Baylor did play on the 1972 team, he retired mid-season because of career ending injures, and did get a ring. Most players like him would get a ring. So saying Baylor doesn't have a ring is just wrong.
Also, only because of 1969, I'd say Russell is the best, but you have to look at teammates. The Celtics had hall of fame players coming off their bench. They had a roster 6-7 deep some years with hall of famers. West and Baylor were great, and in his prime Baylor might have been better than Russell as a player. But we'll never know because Baylor just didn't have the talent around him. It's all about teams. I give Russell credit because he battled Wilt every year, and beat him every year. Including when Wilt joined the Lakers and have Baylor and West with him. I think that's the justification for the praise Russell gets. He's the David that beat Goliath each and every year.
Sccit:
and again, was the 5th leading scorer on a championship team...never cracked the 20 ppg game mark. he's somewhere in between kareem and horry.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 01:58:33 PM ---and again, was the 5th leading scorer on a championship team...never cracked the 20 ppg game mark. he's somewhere in between kareem and horry.
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Defense wins championships my friend. And Russell was one of the best, if not the best, defensive centers in history. He always had hall of famers around him, but he's wars with Wilt justified him being in the conversation. If you rank players on offense only, then yes, Russell ain't even top 20 all time. But the complete player, defense, offense, rebounds, guarding better players, will to win, Basketball IQ. You don't get any better than Russell, and the rings speak for themselves.
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