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What is LeBron's Legacy
Sccit:
if kobe's not in your top 5, then kill yaself. only players who can be regarded as better=magic, michael, and kareem. and between those 4, an argument can be made for any of them as GOAT. actually, there are about 10 players who are interchangeable as GOAT when u talkin about individual skill. once u factor in accomplishments, it's the 4 i named and then everyone else.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 02:01:28 PM ---if kobe's not in your top 5, then kill yaself. only players who can be regarded as better=magic, michael, and kareem. and between those 4, an argument can be made for any of them as GOAT. actually, there are about 10 players who are interchangeable as GOAT when u talkin about individual skill. once u factor in accomplishments, it's the 4 i named and then everyone else.
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Okay?? Where does Kobe goes with Mikan, Russell, Magic, MJ? Who does he replace? They all won at least 5 titles. Mikan has more MVPs, Russell has more NBA Finals MVPs, Magic has more league MVPs and Finals MVPs, MJ have more titles and MVPs and 6 Finals MVPs. Who does Kobe replace? Look, let's see what Kobe does in his last year. If you are looking for me saying Kobe is better than LeBron, hell, I say it all the time. Kobe is better than LeBron.
You should quote this and put it in your sig.
Kobe Bryant is better than LeBron James.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 02:08:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 02:01:28 PM ---if kobe's not in your top 5, then kill yaself. only players who can be regarded as better=magic, michael, and kareem. and between those 4, an argument can be made for any of them as GOAT. actually, there are about 10 players who are interchangeable as GOAT when u talkin about individual skill. once u factor in accomplishments, it's the 4 i named and then everyone else.
--- End quote ---
Okay?? Where does Kobe goes with Mikan, Russell, Magic, MJ? Who does he replace? They all won at least 5 titles. Mikan has more MVPs, Russell has more NBA Finals MVPs, Magic has more league MVPs and Finals MVPs, MJ have more titles and MVPs and 6 Finals MVPs. Who does Kobe replace? Look, let's see what Kobe does in his last year. If you are looking for me saying Kobe is better than LeBron, hell, I say it all the time. Kobe is better than LeBron.
You should quote this and put it in your sig.
Kobe Bryant is better than LeBron James.
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thats why i said u have to factor in individual skill ANDDDD accolades...not one or the other. kobe shits on russell and mikan in terms of individual skill, and only an idiot would argue that. it's only the accolades that elevates them to bein anywhere close.
i dont care if u say kobe is better than lebron to save face....at this point, no one is really claimin otherwise. but u still downplaying the shit outa kobe comparin him to george mikan lmao.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 02:17:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 02:08:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 02:01:28 PM ---if kobe's not in your top 5, then kill yaself. only players who can be regarded as better=magic, michael, and kareem. and between those 4, an argument can be made for any of them as GOAT. actually, there are about 10 players who are interchangeable as GOAT when u talkin about individual skill. once u factor in accomplishments, it's the 4 i named and then everyone else.
--- End quote ---
Okay?? Where does Kobe goes with Mikan, Russell, Magic, MJ? Who does he replace? They all won at least 5 titles. Mikan has more MVPs, Russell has more NBA Finals MVPs, Magic has more league MVPs and Finals MVPs, MJ have more titles and MVPs and 6 Finals MVPs. Who does Kobe replace? Look, let's see what Kobe does in his last year. If you are looking for me saying Kobe is better than LeBron, hell, I say it all the time. Kobe is better than LeBron.
You should quote this and put it in your sig.
Kobe Bryant is better than LeBron James.
--- End quote ---
thats why i said u have to factor in individual skill ANDDDD accolades...not one or the other. kobe shits on russell and mikan in terms of individual skill, and only an idiot would argue that. it's only the accolades that elevates them to bein anywhere close.
i dont care if u say kobe is better than lebron to save face....at this point, no one is really claimin otherwise. but u still downplaying the shit outa kobe comparin him to george mikan lmao.
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Mikan's a Laker. Thought you wouldn't mind that. Besides, my Mt. Rushmore wasn't based off of one on one play, it was based off importance to the game. Mikan was the first superstar, Russell won 11 titles and was a player/coach and he spoke out on political issues, Magic was the winner of Magic vs. Bird and that rivalry put the game on a whole other level, and MJ open up the business of the game and became the global face of basketball. I even explained it on my original Mt Rushmore post. Do I think Kobe could beat Russell one on one, hell yes. But do I think Russell was more important to basketball than Kobe, I do.
As for my actual top 10 in terms of skill, I said this before too, I don't put active players on my list. I am making an excuse for Kobe because he's played more minutes than many of the other players in my top 10. But I really don't think much about his place, other than I don't see him passing Magic, Jordan, Kareem, Russell as just a straight winner, and Mikan because of how Mikan dominated his era. That's what it's about. How good are you against your own era? Why? Because that's all you have to judge people by. Mikan was more dominate against his own era than Kobe was against his. Russell was way more dominate against his era than any other player in history. That's how I judge it. Maybe if Kobe retires, and I can properly look at his career, maybe I'll put him in my top 5. Maybe. I said the same thing about MJ, because Bulls fans were like you in the 90's. I REFUSED to put MJ in my top 5 because he was still playing. I couldn't accurately say he was a top 5 player when he only had 4 rings and he quit on basketball. Everyone was saying he was the greatest and I just rolled my eyes because he was still playing and I had no idea if he'd quit again, he'd get hurt, he'd leave the floor in the middle of the finals. And people yelled at me. But I take the same stance with Kobe, he ain't no top 5 player until I can put his career in prospective and judge him accordingly. I'll give him top 10, he has played so many minutes. Where? I don't know. I have to sit down and make a list. But top 5, for an active player, that's crazy.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 02:29:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 02:17:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 02:08:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 02:01:28 PM ---if kobe's not in your top 5, then kill yaself. only players who can be regarded as better=magic, michael, and kareem. and between those 4, an argument can be made for any of them as GOAT. actually, there are about 10 players who are interchangeable as GOAT when u talkin about individual skill. once u factor in accomplishments, it's the 4 i named and then everyone else.
--- End quote ---
Okay?? Where does Kobe goes with Mikan, Russell, Magic, MJ? Who does he replace? They all won at least 5 titles. Mikan has more MVPs, Russell has more NBA Finals MVPs, Magic has more league MVPs and Finals MVPs, MJ have more titles and MVPs and 6 Finals MVPs. Who does Kobe replace? Look, let's see what Kobe does in his last year. If you are looking for me saying Kobe is better than LeBron, hell, I say it all the time. Kobe is better than LeBron.
You should quote this and put it in your sig.
Kobe Bryant is better than LeBron James.
--- End quote ---
thats why i said u have to factor in individual skill ANDDDD accolades...not one or the other. kobe shits on russell and mikan in terms of individual skill, and only an idiot would argue that. it's only the accolades that elevates them to bein anywhere close.
i dont care if u say kobe is better than lebron to save face....at this point, no one is really claimin otherwise. but u still downplaying the shit outa kobe comparin him to george mikan lmao.
--- End quote ---
Mikan's a Laker. Thought you wouldn't mind that. Besides, my Mt. Rushmore wasn't based off of one on one play, it was based off importance to the game. Mikan was the first superstar, Russell won 11 titles and was a player/coach and he spoke out on political issues, Magic was the winner of Magic vs. Bird and that rivalry put the game on a whole other level, and MJ open up the business of the game and became the global face of basketball. I even explained it on my original Mt Rushmore post. Do I think Kobe could beat Russell one on one, hell yes. But do I think Russell was more important to basketball than Kobe, I do.
As for my actual top 10 in terms of skill, I said this before too, I don't put active players on my list. I am making an excuse for Kobe because he's played more minutes than many of the other players in my top 10. But I really don't think much about his place, other than I don't see him passing Magic, Jordan, Kareem, Russell as just a straight winner, and Mikan because of how Mikan dominated his era. That's what it's about. How good are you against your own era? Why? Because that's all you have to judge people by. Mikan was more dominate against his own era than Kobe was against his. Russell was way more dominate against his era than any other player in history. That's how I judge it. Maybe if Kobe retires, and I can properly look at his career, maybe I'll put him in my top 5. Maybe. I said the same thing about MJ, because Bulls fans were like you in the 90's. I REFUSED to put MJ in my top 5 because he was still playing. I couldn't accurately say he was a top 5 player when he only had 4 rings and he quit on basketball. Everyone was saying he was the greatest and I just rolled my eyes because he was still playing and I had no idea if he'd quit again, he'd get hurt, he'd leave the floor in the middle of the finals. And people yelled at me. But I take the same stance with Kobe, he ain't no top 5 player until I can put his career in prospective and judge him accordingly. I'll give him top 10, he has played so many minutes. Where? I don't know. I have to sit down and make a list. But top 5, for an active player, that's crazy.
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OH, RUSSELL SPOKE OUT ON POLITICAL ISSUES, GOTCHYA
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