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What is LeBron's Legacy
Chamillitary Click:
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--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 12:31:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 12:20:02 PM ---Top 10 for sure, could become the GOAT if the Cavs threepeat now while he is still putting up absurd numbers and gangsta games.
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You smoking?
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Can't help it if you for some odd reason think that 2/2 is better than 2/6.... Jordan in his prime would have had NO chance in 2007 in LeBron's place. In any Finals he lost, he clearly had a vastly inferior team, except for 2011. And you're a certified Laker homer for putting Mikan in the top 4.
By the way, the only reason Jordan never lost a Finals is because in 95, he just wasn't good enough to get there.
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lol@mdogg bein a laker homer...he just did that to spite kobe, as if u didnt know. again, these years in which lebron is losing the finals is only because he plays in the east. he'd be a first round exit every year if he played out west, and u do know that. and yes, 2/2 is better than 2/6 lmao.
btw kobe or jordan in lebron's shoes would be AT LEAST 4/6, and it's not even up for discussion.
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So basically, LeBron would be a better player if he got bounced earlier and be 2/2?
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LMFAO. Pretty much.
Dude, I've already discussed this. "Rings" & "Finals record" was not even a thing until LeBron entered the league. Nobody ever said "Oh, Allen Iverson in his prime sucked because he didn't win a ring" or "Karl Malone was awful" or "Charles Barkley was straight ass cheeks". Only after LeBron came into the league the MJ stans & the 3peat Laker stans created this new standard that eliminated how awful of a team you were on, what front management did for you & just said it was 100% rings....unless LeBron surpasses 3 rings...then there's nooo waaaay he's better than Bird & his hall of fame squad Celtics lol. Or god forbid he threepeats the next three seasons, "Kobe only lost twice". So in theory, Kobe not being able to do what LeBron tried to do in the Finals (twice) after Shaq left & got his ass kicked with Smush Parker left somehow helped his legacy lmao.
It's nothing more than a lame standard they created......but Elgin Baylor's one ring >>>>> Bill's 11.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 18, 2015, 03:49:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 11:13:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 01:52:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 12:58:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 12:31:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 12:20:02 PM ---Top 10 for sure, could become the GOAT if the Cavs threepeat now while he is still putting up absurd numbers and gangsta games.
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You smoking?
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Can't help it if you for some odd reason think that 2/2 is better than 2/6.... Jordan in his prime would have had NO chance in 2007 in LeBron's place. In any Finals he lost, he clearly had a vastly inferior team, except for 2011. And you're a certified Laker homer for putting Mikan in the top 4.
By the way, the only reason Jordan never lost a Finals is because in 95, he just wasn't good enough to get there.
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lol@mdogg bein a laker homer...he just did that to spite kobe, as if u didnt know. again, these years in which lebron is losing the finals is only because he plays in the east. he'd be a first round exit every year if he played out west, and u do know that. and yes, 2/2 is better than 2/6 lmao.
btw kobe or jordan in lebron's shoes would be AT LEAST 4/6, and it's not even up for discussion.
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So basically, LeBron would be a better player if he got bounced earlier and be 2/2?
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LMFAO. Pretty much.
Dude, I've already discussed this. "Rings" & "Finals record" was not even a thing until LeBron entered the league. Nobody ever said "Oh, Allen Iverson in his prime sucked because he didn't win a ring" or "Karl Malone was awful" or "Charles Barkley was straight ass cheeks". Only after LeBron came into the league the MJ stans & the 3peat Laker stans created this new standard that eliminated how awful of a team you were on, what front management did for you & just said it was 100% rings....unless LeBron surpasses 3 rings...then there's nooo waaaay he's better than Bird & his hall of fame squad Celtics lol. Or god forbid he threepeats the next three seasons, "Kobe only lost twice". So in theory, Kobe not being able to do what LeBron tried to do in the Finals (twice) after Shaq left & got his ass kicked with Smush Parker left somehow helped his legacy lmao.
It's nothing more than a lame standard they created......but Elgin Baylor's one ring >>>>> Bill's 11.
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Giving LeBron haters too much credit. My earliest memory of the ring count came from Magic and Bird. Their whole battle was about rings. Jordan was on the side dunking with Wilkins and everyone else was doing their thing. But the Magic vs. Bird rivalry was defined by the ring count. People got on Barkley, Malone and others for not winning rings in the 90's.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 18, 2015, 03:49:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 11:13:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 01:52:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 12:58:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 12:31:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 12:20:02 PM ---Top 10 for sure, could become the GOAT if the Cavs threepeat now while he is still putting up absurd numbers and gangsta games.
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You smoking?
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Can't help it if you for some odd reason think that 2/2 is better than 2/6.... Jordan in his prime would have had NO chance in 2007 in LeBron's place. In any Finals he lost, he clearly had a vastly inferior team, except for 2011. And you're a certified Laker homer for putting Mikan in the top 4.
By the way, the only reason Jordan never lost a Finals is because in 95, he just wasn't good enough to get there.
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lol@mdogg bein a laker homer...he just did that to spite kobe, as if u didnt know. again, these years in which lebron is losing the finals is only because he plays in the east. he'd be a first round exit every year if he played out west, and u do know that. and yes, 2/2 is better than 2/6 lmao.
btw kobe or jordan in lebron's shoes would be AT LEAST 4/6, and it's not even up for discussion.
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So basically, LeBron would be a better player if he got bounced earlier and be 2/2?
--- End quote ---
LMFAO. Pretty much.
Dude, I've already discussed this. "Rings" & "Finals record" was not even a thing until LeBron entered the league. Nobody ever said "Oh, Allen Iverson in his prime sucked because he didn't win a ring" or "Karl Malone was awful" or "Charles Barkley was straight ass cheeks". Only after LeBron came into the league the MJ stans & the 3peat Laker stans created this new standard that eliminated how awful of a team you were on, what front management did for you & just said it was 100% rings....unless LeBron surpasses 3 rings...then there's nooo waaaay he's better than Bird & his hall of fame squad Celtics lol. Or god forbid he threepeats the next three seasons, "Kobe only lost twice". So in theory, Kobe not being able to do what LeBron tried to do in the Finals (twice) after Shaq left & got his ass kicked with Smush Parker left somehow helped his legacy lmao.
It's nothing more than a lame standard they created......but Elgin Baylor's one ring >>>>> Bill's 11.
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BUT LOOK AT THE PEOPLE U LISTED....THATS THE TIER LEBRON IS IN.....GET IT YET?
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 18, 2015, 07:27:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 18, 2015, 03:49:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 11:13:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 17, 2015, 01:52:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 12:58:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on June 17, 2015, 12:31:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 17, 2015, 12:20:02 PM ---Top 10 for sure, could become the GOAT if the Cavs threepeat now while he is still putting up absurd numbers and gangsta games.
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You smoking?
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Can't help it if you for some odd reason think that 2/2 is better than 2/6.... Jordan in his prime would have had NO chance in 2007 in LeBron's place. In any Finals he lost, he clearly had a vastly inferior team, except for 2011. And you're a certified Laker homer for putting Mikan in the top 4.
By the way, the only reason Jordan never lost a Finals is because in 95, he just wasn't good enough to get there.
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lol@mdogg bein a laker homer...he just did that to spite kobe, as if u didnt know. again, these years in which lebron is losing the finals is only because he plays in the east. he'd be a first round exit every year if he played out west, and u do know that. and yes, 2/2 is better than 2/6 lmao.
btw kobe or jordan in lebron's shoes would be AT LEAST 4/6, and it's not even up for discussion.
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So basically, LeBron would be a better player if he got bounced earlier and be 2/2?
--- End quote ---
LMFAO. Pretty much.
Dude, I've already discussed this. "Rings" & "Finals record" was not even a thing until LeBron entered the league. Nobody ever said "Oh, Allen Iverson in his prime sucked because he didn't win a ring" or "Karl Malone was awful" or "Charles Barkley was straight ass cheeks". Only after LeBron came into the league the MJ stans & the 3peat Laker stans created this new standard that eliminated how awful of a team you were on, what front management did for you & just said it was 100% rings....unless LeBron surpasses 3 rings...then there's nooo waaaay he's better than Bird & his hall of fame squad Celtics lol. Or god forbid he threepeats the next three seasons, "Kobe only lost twice". So in theory, Kobe not being able to do what LeBron tried to do in the Finals (twice) after Shaq left & got his ass kicked with Smush Parker left somehow helped his legacy lmao.
It's nothing more than a lame standard they created......but Elgin Baylor's one ring >>>>> Bill's 11.
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BUT LOOK AT THE PEOPLE U LISTED....THATS THE TIER LEBRON IS IN.....GET IT YET?
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That's a funny & cute comeback, but in reality it's facts. Malone wasn't shitted on because he didn't win. When he retired he was pretty much the undisputed greatest PF of all-time. Nobody cared. Just you. & when you sit back & realize why the ring argument means so much to you, it's because it's about where the "check" in the "check box" between the two ends for Kobe. Everything else other than "purer shooter" goes to LeBron.
Sccit:
WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT? KOBE IS BETTER IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY FACET OF THE GAME
BETTER HANDLES- KOBE
BETTER SHOT- KOBE
BETTER OFFENSIVE ARSENAL- KOBE
BETTER FOOTWORK- KOBE
BETTER POST-MOVES- KOBE
BETTER OFF THE BALL- KOBE
BETTER DEFENDER- KOBE
THE ONLY THING LEBRON HAS ON KOBE IS LITERALLY SIZE AND ATHLETICISM....EVERYTHING ELSE GOES TO KOBE. IF NOT, WHY IS KOBE DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TEAMED WHILE LEBRON IS GUARDED 1-ON-1? AND IF LEBRON'S TEAMMATES ARE SO HORRIBLE, WHY WONT THEY DOUBLE OFF THEM? LOL. IT'S HILARIOUS.. LEBRON IS NOWHERE NEAR KOBE AND DEEP IN UR HEART U KNOW IT...FORGET RINGS. JUST AS PURE BASKETBALL PLAYERS. HE'S BETTER AT EVERY MEASURABLE FACET THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO SKILL AS OPPOSED TO SIZE.
AND LIKE MDOGG ALREADY SAID, THE BIGGEST KNOCK ON MALONE AND BARKLEY WAS ALWAYS NO RINGS...ITS THE SOLE REASON SOME1 LIKE SHAQ IS REGARDED AS BEING A TIER HIGHER.
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