Vince Staples - Summertime '06 (Discussion Thread)

[Blood$]

he also is on that new Ghostface album lol so I think you're reaching a little far CM... if he was trolling in that interview that you read, then you got trolled

as for this album - it's fresh and gets better with every listen, I pity anybody sleeping on it 

[CORREA]

smh... fuck dubcc, this site supports nothing west coast past 1996

Lol did you just figure that out?

it was a speculation for me before but is now a 100% confirmation lol

damn how long did it take you to figure it out ur always late on shit

[Blood$]

smh... fuck dubcc, this site supports nothing west coast past 1996

Lol did you just figure that out?

it was a speculation for me before but is now a 100% confirmation lol

damn how long did it take you to figure it out ur always late on shit

you shouldn't even be talking lol

[Blood$]

http://www.xxlmag.com/rap-music/reviews/2015/07/vince-staples-summertime-06-review/

Rating: XL

Vince Staples has never fit a mold. The streetwise rapper from Long Beach and 2015 XXL Freshman has a long lineage of rappers whose model he could follow as he begins to assert himself on the hip-hop landscape, dating back to Nate Dogg, Snoop and Dre and their funkified, bouncy party jams, or more recently with the Compton-bred MCs YG and Kendrick Lamar, anchors of opposite sides of the current Cali hip-hop spectrum. But on his Def Jam debut, the double album Summertime ’06, Staples largely rejects the sonic landscape of his West Coast predecessors, instead relying heavily on Def Jam’s in-house Yoda No I.D. to craft a stark, brooding LP that is completely his own.

A double album is daunting for most rappers, with only a handful throughout hip-hop history truly able to pull it off, but for a rapper’s debut it’s almost unheard-of. But Summertime ’06 is assembled with that issue in mind, varying styles and moods in a way that makes its 20 tracks feel more cohesive and compelling than most could squeeze into a single disc. His first single, the Future-sampling “Señorita,” is probably the most attention-grabbing song on the whole LP as Future’s looped vocals stick out from the rest of the project. The rest of the LP takes a more invested listen to really pull apart; the beats and vocals are sewed together so tightly that they can’t be differentiated. It’s hard to imagine, for instance, anyone taking an instrumental and remixing it to put their own spin on one of his songs. Each cut is tailored specifically to Vince’s style, with each guest spot augmenting and adding touches of flair without taking away from his singular vision. He largely dismisses the idea of a big, sweeping chorus, instead crafting hooks from particularly poignant sections of his raps, using refrains as talking points of his overall narrative rather than breaks from his relentless bars. The result is an album that grows more impressive with more listens.

What Summertime ’06 brings to the surface is the image of a young kid surrounded by the violence of the streets trying to balance the harsh, violent realities of his surroundings with the crushing knowledge that, without a miracle, there doesn’t seem to be a way out. But rather than sink under the strain, Staples’ vision finds the silver lining, presenting a raw, unrelenting view of the world from ground level and the lessons and instincts it takes to survive. “Lift Me Up” lays out that idea: “See this weight is on my shoulders, pray Jehovah lift me up/And my pain is never over, pills and potions fix me up/I just want to live it up, can a muthafucka breathe?/Life ain’t always what it seems, so please just lift me up.” “Norf Norf” finds Staples laying out the nuances of Long Beach, with its drone-like Clams Casino beat giving him a platform to mix generalizations with specific incidents to show what he deals with on a day to day level. It’s among the closest he gets to something that could work on radio, but that’s another mold that Staples has no time for. What’s the point of getting a radio record when the bottles, models and Bugatti’s don’t come around these parts? Instead, as he points out on “Birds & Bees,” he’s much more likely to come across another dead body in the alley. Leave the club to people who have fewer problems weighing on their mind.

“Like It Is,” the penultimate track on the album, is arguably its best: “I gotta be, I gotta be, I gotta be the one/To make it up to Heaven, despite the things I’ve done/I gotta be, I gotta be, I gotta be the one/To make my momma proud, feel like her only son,” he raps on the hook. But as the beat drops out to just a simple piano line towards the song’s conclusion, Staples leaves the storytelling behind and gets as real as he does on the entire LP. “No matter what we grow into we never gonna escape our past/So in this cage they made for me, exactly where you find me at/Whether it’s my time to leave or not, I never turn my back.” Summertime ’06 isn’t intended to cater to anyone who doesn’t want to take the time to peel back its layers and follow along and feel its ugly truths. It is, to its core, exactly what it intends to be, regardless of what anyone else may think or say or try to impose upon it. It is, simply, one of the best rap debuts of the year. And Vince Staples didn’t have to follow any mold to make it that way. —Dan Rys

[soopa-man]

i was a fan of this kid, truthfully he's one of the dopest young cats out here. 'Nate' is a fucking great song. so once i heard his guest verse on earl sweatshirts track 'wool', i was disappointed to hear the line 'wessons giving mexicans wetbacks like orale'. i know street politics, i get it. dude is from a long beach crip neighborhood that goes at it with mexican sets, but i still cant fuck wit it off GP. a homie of mine (whos a thourough street dude that raps) got at him on twitter about it and vince was mad disrespectful in response to it, talking about 'fuck his dead homies blah, blah blah', and said catch this fade then. my homie told him name the time and place but of course, no response. i was glad the album wasn't as dope as i thought it'd be cuz it makes it easier not to fuck with his music. someones gonna pull his card freal if he aint careful.

Never knew this homes, being Mexican and supporting hip hop music for at least 15 years now, that shit is lame to me, I know this shit is real out here between brown and black.  But when you bring real shit in to music, when some thing happens artist are the first with stop the violence songs and shirts and shit.

[Dogg Ly Dogg]

Not really a fan of this type of rap but I'm a core westcoast supporter so I gave him a chance when his EP came out and now I really like his stuff, I'll probably gonna cop the hard copy when I'll see it in stores.

[Blood$]

i was a fan of this kid, truthfully he's one of the dopest young cats out here. 'Nate' is a fucking great song. so once i heard his guest verse on earl sweatshirts track 'wool', i was disappointed to hear the line 'wessons giving mexicans wetbacks like orale'. i know street politics, i get it. dude is from a long beach crip neighborhood that goes at it with mexican sets, but i still cant fuck wit it off GP. a homie of mine (whos a thourough street dude that raps) got at him on twitter about it and vince was mad disrespectful in response to it, talking about 'fuck his dead homies blah, blah blah', and said catch this fade then. my homie told him name the time and place but of course, no response. i was glad the album wasn't as dope as i thought it'd be cuz it makes it easier not to fuck with his music. someones gonna pull his card freal if he aint careful.

Never knew this homes, being Mexican and supporting hip hop music for at least 15 years now, that shit is lame to me, I know this shit is real out here between brown and black.  But when you bring real shit in to music, when some thing happens artist are the first with stop the violence songs and shirts and shit.

he had some Latinos in the "Señorita" video though lol once again though that line was probably on his Odd Future/trolling wave but at the same time if he's from a rivaling hood that goes at it with Mexicans I get the disrespect taken

[soopa-man]

I just seen the señorita video kind of weird I read what the homie I quoted posted that and he did that video... His album is dope and "norf, norf" is a dope jam

[Blood$]

I just seen the señorita video kind of weird I read what the homie I quoted posted that and he did that video... His album is dope and "norf, norf" is a dope jam

that video is powerful

[doggfather]

f.ck, this is a really good album. 

[Blood$]

some of these joints are still in rotation, such a slept on release

[bigpimpin20]

dont know if its cuz of beats, voice or his flow but whole project had little  monotonous feel to it

heres some more this year releases that wasnt mentioned here

Boogie - The Reach
Joe Moses - Brackin
Skeme - Ingleworld 2
Dom Kennedy - By Dom Kennedy
DJ Mustard - 10 Summers The Mixtape Vol. 1
Tyga - The God Alm 1th Dynasty

[Sccit]

smh... fuck dubcc, this site supports nothing west coast past 1996

theres hella artists that even u dont support still.....dope west coast artists goin under the radar just about everywhere

[Blood$]

dont know if its cuz of beats, voice or his flow but whole project had little  monotonous feel to it

Joe Moses - Brackin
Dom Kennedy - By Dom Kennedy
DJ Mustard - 10 Summers The Mixtape Vol. 1
Tyga - The God Alm 1th Dynasty

well you can't really put a 'monotonous' label on this album and them mention these joints as not being just that lol especially Tyga

I made a thread for Skeme's joint but cats didn't like it because it didn't sound like 1996

smh... fuck dubcc, this site supports nothing west coast past 1996

theres hella artists that even u dont support still.....dope west coast artists goin under the radar just about everywhere

such as?

[Sccit]

dont know if its cuz of beats, voice or his flow but whole project had little  monotonous feel to it

Joe Moses - Brackin
Dom Kennedy - By Dom Kennedy
DJ Mustard - 10 Summers The Mixtape Vol. 1
Tyga - The God Alm 1th Dynasty

well you can't really put a 'monotonous' label on this album and them mention these joints as not being just that lol especially Tyga

I made a thread for Skeme's joint but cats didn't like it because it didn't sound like 1996

smh... fuck dubcc, this site supports nothing west coast past 1996

theres hella artists that even u dont support still.....dope west coast artists goin under the radar just about everywhere

such as?

c-dubb, a-wax, mac reese, unda'dogg, any1 in lambfam..lotsa stuff i post up