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DR. DRE - COMPTON: A SOUNDTRACK BY DR. DRE (Official Discussion)
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Jay_J on May 03, 2024, 01:50:58 AM ---FOCUS's himself said that mastering was dissapointing. who ever was responsible for mastering fucked it up and they didnt have time to fix it.
so you dont have to justify it bro.
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what you need to understand about mastering is that a lot of it is subjective
meaning some will prefer a brighter master and some will prefer a darker master
compton was mastered on the bright side and although it’s not my preference it’s still an A1 master in terms of sound quality
could they have sent it back for revisions to fit a different sound they’re aiming for? sure
but that doesn’t make the initial master subpar
sonically, compton was pure excellence .. even tho i most definitely prefer the darker master of 2001
i’m curious to see what focus said .. can you post it here?
--Vance--:
--- Quote from: Dwax-187 on May 02, 2024, 12:05:40 PM ---Agreed about 2001. I remember hearing Dre replica beats from producers for the next 5+ years. Dre also carried his sounds with and had a damn near flawlesss 5 year run after 2001 dropped.
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I think the 2001 sound aesthetique ended with Busta Rhymes The Big Bang album. After 2006 Dre was looking for a new sound but was never able to create the real magic like on his last great era. To this day every normal music fan loves the sound Dre created in his prime. You just cant deny the fact that these songs all sound as fresh as they came out in 1999 to this day. Show Still D.R.E. or Next Episode to a 14 year old or a 65 year old human being, above 90 percent of all civilized people will know the songs and also the most important thing: Really like them...
I blame it also on the Trap era which lastest waaaay to long in hip hop history. Think about it.. At latest when Soulja Boy came with that Crank That joint in 07, this type of sound took over mainstream hip hop music worldwide. Of course the alternate hip hop genres survived but had a hard time and lived in the underground in the 2010s in my opinion. Thank God its slowly fading away and we are going back to more modern boom bap orientated music with real raps and less mumbleness and autotune.
--Vance--:
--- Quote from: The Predator on May 02, 2024, 01:06:20 PM ---https://gearspace.com/board/mastering-forum/1023788-dr-dre-compton-sounds-harsh.html?s=b063a7c5e1bf8eacf5048fa7cf8854a9
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Super good link to read what gear nerds thought about the album when it dropped. One thing I dont think is true: Some people think that certain sounds only can be created with certain gear. That is a myth nowadays because there are so many good plugins and modern equipment which can create magic too. DJ Premier maybe should have stuck with the MPC60 and the S950 though haha, because he was just a genious on these machines, especially with Eddie Sancho mixing all his stuff. His current beats are dope, but also cant compete like Dre with his primetime of course.
But I will say it again and again: Every great producer especially in hip hop has his ups and downs. And to be able to make still great music in their 50s or 60s is a heavy challenge... After all the classics they made in their career.
Jay_J:
--- Quote from: Sccit on May 03, 2024, 07:25:28 AM ---
what you need to understand about mastering is that a lot of it is subjective
meaning some will prefer a brighter master and some will prefer a darker master
compton was mastered on the bright side and although it’s not my preference it’s still an A1 master in terms of sound quality
could they have sent it back for revisions to fit a different sound they’re aiming for? sure
but that doesn’t make the initial master subpar
sonically, compton was pure excellence .. even tho i most definitely prefer the darker master of 2001
i’m curious to see what focus said .. can you post it here?
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mastering or mixing is not subjective when it comes to quality and musical facts. there is good mix, there is good mastering also there are bad mix and mastering. but its subjective when it comes to a boomy, punchy, low end, etc mastering, or dark or brighter or etc... but if its a bad mastering, its not subjective. if its subjective why u care about mastering in your albums and work with brian? you can master it yourself and if people dont like it u can say its subjective :) no its not subjective. we are not talking about what type of mastering it is, we are talking about it is bad or good.
anyway, focus made a Q&A in instagram before and a few people asked about the disapointing sound of compton compilation and he said its because of the guy who mastered the album. he pointed that production and mixing was great but mastering fucked everything up and he agrees people who thinks it doesnt sound good.
Dwax-187:
I thought Brian 'Big Bass' Gardner at Bernie Grundman Mastering, LA mastered all 3 Doc Dre albums ???
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