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Sccit:
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--- Quote from: Sccit on January 18, 2016, 02:54:23 PM ---Remedy makes excellent points
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--- Quote from: Remedy360 on January 18, 2016, 03:31:31 PM ---
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
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I think he does too. In the grand scheme of things, it's why public money gets put into sports teams, it's why the local politicians wear the hometown teams colors. When Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, he was at every T'Wolves game.
But sometimes, once you find your team, you keep with them. Just because I moved to Minnesota does not mean I'm dumping my teams I grew up with. To me, you don't need to follow the hometown team if those teams don't fit you. As I mentioned, Ice Cube was a Raiders fan in the 70's, even though the Rams played down the street from South Central, because he felt the Raiders swagger fit him. And the Rams in the 70's was a winning team. Even though the Lakers dominate Southern California, and I mean the next closest popular team in SoCal is the Dodgers and the Dodger's popularity is not even close to the Lakers, there are still people who don't like the Lakers. There are people who just feel like they don't like the Hollywood image of the Lakers, or the superstar driven culture.
Also, people liking the Cowboys, well living out here, I call them the ultimate bandwagon fans, and they usually like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers. Those are the teams that I notice are followed outside their market the most. And most polls show this. People without home teams usually follow these teams the most. The Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers are sort of national teams now, they get the most national TV time, they do the highest ratings when they are in the playoffs, and they get the most ESPN time. I ain't mad at fans who follow these teams. I remember buying tickets to the Angels and I got 4 tickets because they were so cheap. I brought my dad, and two cousins. I was shocked when one of my cousins wanted to go because he was a Yankees fans and I bought tickets to see the Angels vs. Yankees.
So yeah, I understand the whole local team angle, and it's a real thing and it's why local markets put public money in these teams. But at the same time, I understand people who follow a team outside their market, even if they have a local team. Ain't no way in hell I'm rooting for the T'Wolves over the Lakers when I grew up watching Magic Johnson and had a Shaq and Kobe poster in my dorm room. And if others don't feel that their local teams represent them, then they have the rights to pick other teams. My cousin who liked the Yankees still liked the Chargers and Lakers, he just liked the Yankees. He liked the Chargers because he liked the powder blues, the Lakers because he was from SoCal, and the Yankees because of the rich history. Ain't nothing wrong with that, even though you can argue the Dodgers rich history. But that was his thing.
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I believe what remedy was alluding to was cats who pick teams outside their local market wit pathetic reasonings...like your cousin from socal who roots for yankees over dodgers cuz of the "rich history"..
Whoops, fucked up your post by clicking modify rather than quote, still not used to mod buttons LOL
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 19, 2016, 09:32:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on January 19, 2016, 09:17:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 18, 2016, 02:54:23 PM ---Remedy makes excellent points
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--- Quote from: Remedy360 on January 18, 2016, 03:31:31 PM ---
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
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I think he does too. In the grand scheme of things, it's why public money gets put into sports teams, it's why the local politicians wear the hometown teams colors. When Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, he was at every T'Wolves game.
But sometimes, once you find your team, you keep with them. Just because I moved to Minnesota does not mean I'm dumping my teams I grew up with. To me, you don't need to follow the hometown team if those teams don't fit you. As I mentioned, Ice Cube was a Raiders fan in the 70's, even though the Rams played down the street from South Central, because he felt the Raiders swagger fit him. And the Rams in the 70's was a winning team. Even though the Lakers dominate Southern California, and I mean the next closest popular team in SoCal is the Dodgers and the Dodger's popularity is not even close to the Lakers, there are still people who don't like the Lakers. There are people who just feel like they don't like the Hollywood image of the Lakers, or the superstar driven culture.
Also, people liking the Cowboys, well living out here, I call them the ultimate bandwagon fans, and they usually like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers. Those are the teams that I notice are followed outside their market the most. And most polls show this. People without home teams usually follow these teams the most. The Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers are sort of national teams now, they get the most national TV time, they do the highest ratings when they are in the playoffs, and they get the most ESPN time. I ain't mad at fans who follow these teams. I remember buying tickets to the Angels and I got 4 tickets because they were so cheap. I brought my dad, and two cousins. I was shocked when one of my cousins wanted to go because he was a Yankees fans and I bought tickets to see the Angels vs. Yankees.
So yeah, I understand the whole local team angle, and it's a real thing and it's why local markets put public money in these teams. But at the same time, I understand people who follow a team outside their market, even if they have a local team. Ain't no way in hell I'm rooting for the T'Wolves over the Lakers when I grew up watching Magic Johnson and had a Shaq and Kobe poster in my dorm room. And if others don't feel that their local teams represent them, then they have the rights to pick other teams. My cousin who liked the Yankees still liked the Chargers and Lakers, he just liked the Yankees. He liked the Chargers because he liked the powder blues, the Lakers because he was from SoCal, and the Yankees because of the rich history. Ain't nothing wrong with that, even though you can argue the Dodgers rich history. But that was his thing.
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no, considering you were born and raised in or around LA, LA teams should remain your teams, no matter where u move...it'd be understandable if u made the t-wolves your secondary team, but to abandon the lakers and start rooting for the t-wolves 1st would actually be faulty imo. i believe what remedy was alluding to was cats who pick teams outside their local market wit pathetic reasonings...like your cousin from socal who roots for yankees over dodgers cuz of the "rich history"..or the nerd who follows the cavs because lebron james has big muscles. shit like that is pathetic.....and ice cube was 12 when raiders moved to LA, so i duno if he was a big football fan before that, but even then, it's a bad look if he was turning his back on the team reppin his hometown to root for oakland. in that case, cube was faulty too.....but either way, cube shows home support to every team out here, so u gota respect that. same goes for snoop n most other entertainer out there. rep where u from, bottom line.
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For Ice Cube, he always talked about the rebel image of the Raiders, and the swagger and winning that the Raiders did. Also talked about how many in LA had crazy relatives in the Bay who loved the Raiders, and for him that stuck. He wasn't completely sold on the Raiders until 1980, when he was 11, so he must have gone back and forth between them and the Rams. But before they moved to LA, he was already rooting for the Raiders over the Rams. In 1982, the Raiders moved, so he talked about how happy was that his favorite team was were he was.
He also posted this on his Facebook...
"You can bring the St. Louis Rams and the San Diego Chargers to L.A. if you want, but my heart will always be in Oakland."
And for fans like him, I feel him. As I've always said about the Raiders, as long as they are in California, they'll be my team. If they move to San Antonio, then I'm done with them, can't root for a team in Texas. I'll go as far as Las Vegas. LOL... because I love Las Vegas, and the Raiders would be perfect there. But I ain't root for no team past that.
Also, I think of LeBron fans, they remind me of Jordan fans. I have some my age that still root for the Bulls, but they also root for the Clippers now. I've mention them before. I just think they are natural agitators, and over the years I just accept them. In Minnesota, those fans are Packer fans here, they grew up in Minnesota but love the Packers.
What will be funny is my sons. My 5 year old already loves the Raiders and Lakers and he's born here. He only goes to California once a year in the summer, not even during basketball or football seasons. But he loves the Raiders and Lakers because he watches them with his dad... LOL... I am thinking of buying him a Minneapolis Lakers jacket or something, to rep his favorite basketball team and the city he's born in. LOL. We'll see. But others will think he's just like one of those Laker bandwagon fans that likes the Yankees and Cowboys.
As for my cousin, I mean, he likes the Chargers, so that's not suspect at all. That actually is dedication. The Yankees, I'm not sure. He's just always been a Yankees fan. Maybe it's from being a kid. Like me, when I was a kid, I was split between 4 football teams, 49ers because of Montana, the Bears because of the mascot, the Raiders because they were LA, and the Rams because the helmets and they were LA. After a while, I dropped the Bears first, then the Niners, because I just didn't relate to them as I got older. Then I dropped the Rams because the Raiders just had that image I liked. Maybe my cousin had the same thing, I never asked him. he liked a few teams as kid, but over time he just gravitated to the Yankees.
Remedy360:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on January 19, 2016, 09:17:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 18, 2016, 02:54:23 PM ---Remedy makes excellent points
--- End quote ---
--- Quote from: Remedy360 on January 18, 2016, 03:31:31 PM ---
As far as people just switching who they were fans of like you talked about at the beginning, that's just lame, pretty hard to defend that. Yeah, the SuperBowl is a huge spectacle and everyone generally has some kind of rooting interest, but it's not the same as rooting for your hometeam. I'll be rooting for whoever comes out of the AFC since I hate both the Cards and Panthers, but I don't give a fuck about New England or Denver either. Every now adn then there's a team like the 04 Eagles that comes around that I really enjoy, but it's never the same as your own team making it, not even close. As far as the whole "agitator" thing I guess it depends on the context. I mean, I haven't lived in Washington for the last few years but will always root for their teams. I'll always root for the teams I grew up with, I'll just never get pulling for some random city that you have no connection to over your own.
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I think he does too. In the grand scheme of things, it's why public money gets put into sports teams, it's why the local politicians wear the hometown teams colors. When Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota, he was at every T'Wolves game.
But sometimes, once you find your team, you keep with them. Just because I moved to Minnesota does not mean I'm dumping my teams I grew up with. To me, you don't need to follow the hometown team if those teams don't fit you. As I mentioned, Ice Cube was a Raiders fan in the 70's, even though the Rams played down the street from South Central, because he felt the Raiders swagger fit him. And the Rams in the 70's was a winning team. Even though the Lakers dominate Southern California, and I mean the next closest popular team in SoCal is the Dodgers and the Dodger's popularity is not even close to the Lakers, there are still people who don't like the Lakers. There are people who just feel like they don't like the Hollywood image of the Lakers, or the superstar driven culture.
Also, people liking the Cowboys, well living out here, I call them the ultimate bandwagon fans, and they usually like the Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers. Those are the teams that I notice are followed outside their market the most. And most polls show this. People without home teams usually follow these teams the most. The Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers are sort of national teams now, they get the most national TV time, they do the highest ratings when they are in the playoffs, and they get the most ESPN time. I ain't mad at fans who follow these teams. I remember buying tickets to the Angels and I got 4 tickets because they were so cheap. I brought my dad, and two cousins. I was shocked when one of my cousins wanted to go because he was a Yankees fans and I bought tickets to see the Angels vs. Yankees.
So yeah, I understand the whole local team angle, and it's a real thing and it's why local markets put public money in these teams. But at the same time, I understand people who follow a team outside their market, even if they have a local team. Ain't no way in hell I'm rooting for the T'Wolves over the Lakers when I grew up watching Magic Johnson and had a Shaq and Kobe poster in my dorm room. And if others don't feel that their local teams represent them, then they have the rights to pick other teams. My cousin who liked the Yankees still liked the Chargers and Lakers, he just liked the Yankees. He liked the Chargers because he liked the powder blues, the Lakers because he was from SoCal, and the Yankees because of the rich history. Ain't nothing wrong with that, even though you can argue the Dodgers rich history. But that was his thing.
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"I believe what remedy was alluding to was cats who pick teams outside their local market wit pathetic reasonings...like your cousin from socal who roots for yankees over dodgers cuz of the "rich history".."
Bingo. To answer your earlier question I'm living in Hood River Oregon, not exactly a hotspot for sports lol
M Dogg™:
I understand what Remedy is saying. I'm just arguing the other side, because lots of people root for teams outside their markets, and for different reasons.
Space RockStar SkyStalker Machine:
Supporting/wearing there jersey is gonna be straight-bitch shit.Sure ill go to there games because its fun. But i grew up washing east coast football so im east coast smash mouth football. Mark davis moves he is gonna get easy sued by fans cause his game been out of La a long ass time
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