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Hack Wilson - real:
the Cincy Reds Hall Of Fame that is  ;D

M Dogg™:
i've always believed that him and Shoeless Joe should be in the Hall of Fame. And now that Mike Piazza is in, then both really need to be in. Fine, you have a lifetime ban, well you can even make an agreement with Rose, know that you'll be in, but a lifetime ban means not in your lifetime, but we can throw a little party behind close doors, your loved ones can come, you can make a speech and we all know that when you playing ball in that big field in the sky, we are here putting you in the Hall of Fame.

I was fine with leaving Rose out, but once I saw Mike Piazza in, I threw up my hands and said keeping people out who obviously were great, but questionable, is nonsense. Time to let in Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, and other players who would have been in with or without steroids. I'm not even sure Piazza would have been in without PEDs, so maybe let in McGwire, Sosa, and Canseco too.

Remedy360:

--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on January 20, 2016, 10:19:49 AM ---i've always believed that him and Shoeless Joe should be in the Hall of Fame. And now that Mike Piazza is in, then both really need to be in. Fine, you have a lifetime ban, well you can even make an agreement with Rose, know that you'll be in, but a lifetime ban means not in your lifetime, but we can throw a little party behind close doors, your loved ones can come, you can make a speech and we all know that when you playing ball in that big field in the sky, we are here putting you in the Hall of Fame.

I was fine with leaving Rose out, but once I saw Mike Piazza in, I threw up my hands and said keeping people out who obviously were great, but questionable, is nonsense. Time to let in Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, and other players who would have been in with or without steroids. I'm not even sure Piazza would have been in without PEDs, so maybe let in McGwire, Sosa, and Canseco too.

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If I remember correctly Piazza never showed up on any of those major lists, failed a test, or anything like that. I'm not saying you shouldn't be suspicious, but I don't think he ever slipped up like the rest of those guys, so I don't put him in that category. I wouldn't have an issue with guys like Bonds and Clemons getting in cause they're all-time greats without, but they were just so obnoxious in lying about it (and come off as assholes in general) that I don't really feel bad for them. As far as Rose, I've always felt he should be in, especially since he got caught gambling as a manager.

Sccit:
yea u cant leave some1 out because u assume they did roids, thats faulty 2 the fullest. that said, i dont think the gambling shit is as big as they makin it out to be, unless they know he was throwin games, which i dont think they ever came to that conclusion.

M Dogg™:
I think everyone assumed Piazza did 'roids, but there was never any proof. Also, he's admitted to taking androstenedione, which is a banned PED, but when he took it, it was an over the counter product that wasn't banned. Andro' is in debate if it's a steroid or not, but this debate is why Piazza hasn't been in the HoF yet. I think most people know McGwire took 'roids, actual 'roids, but what we can prove was he was taking these supplements too. So do we keep these people out of the HoF for things we can't prove?

One strike against Piazza though, he wants to go in a Met. That's a slap in the face of his own godfather Tommy Lasorda.

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