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Why did 50 Cent fall off behind the mic?
DRGNBLZN:
--- Quote from: Blood$ on March 27, 2016, 02:01:11 PM ---the only living rapper who never once fell off behind the mic is Scarface
EDIT: and Pusha T
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Nas
Xzibit
E-40
Tech N9ne
all 20+ years in the game never fell off and at least semi relevant.
Blood$:
--- Quote from: mrbeatzz on March 28, 2016, 09:33:18 AM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on March 27, 2016, 02:01:11 PM ---the only living rapper who never once fell off behind the mic is Scarface
EDIT: and Pusha T
--- End quote ---
Nas
Xzibit
E-40
Tech N9ne
all 20+ years in the game never fell off and at least semi relevant.
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Nas fell off at one obvious point with Nastradamus, Xzibit has a sub-par album or two in his catalog, I love E-40 and don't wanna say he "fell off" but he's had some average to wack joints on his last few albums, Tech N9ne I will maybe agree with as he's only gotten arguably better with age
Remedy360:
--- Quote from: Jimmy H. on March 26, 2016, 08:33:19 AM ---Saying that 50 was simply a lucky situation based on Dre & Em to me is downplaying a lot of other facts. Dre and Eminem have gotten behind acts before and the success was not there. Timing was definitely a huge factor but he had everything that was needed to make it all work. He was a combination of everything that the music consumer was looking for at the time and he brought the one thing that Dr. Dre and Eminem have never really succeeded at when it comes to breaking artists and that was the guerilla marketing moves.
To call it an Eminem thing doesn't work. Em had been trying to break Obie Trice into his next artist for a minute. The first single/video off of Eminem Show was basically a commercial for Obie. His debut album is actually very underrated and has all the top Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit players on it but the signing of 50 Cent was a bigger deal. Guess Who's Back was gaining some word of mouth and the fact that Dre and Em were co-signing him certainly got people excited but a simple co-sign was not what made 50's career.
Everything sort of fell into place. He had an important story. Shot nine times, dropped from his label, basically having to use the underground mixtape scene to launch his career. It was essentially the American underdog tale. The fact that he was jumping on every mixtape, talking to all these websites, getting all these magazine features was crucial in getting him out there. He was also feuding with Ja Rule at a time when the public was tired of hearing him. He was seemingly offering an alternative to what Ja was offering. He was being looked at in a manner similar to what DMX offered in the Bad Boy era. A breath of fresh air.
The timing of the Dre-Eminem deal is important too. Em was three albums deep and just finishing up on a movie. He was at the height of his popularity but also, was starting to creatively become burnt out. With an album and a soundtrack in the can in 2002, his solo commitments after that would be less for awhile so the opportunity to work on a new artist was there. With the 8-Mile soundtrack, they had a best-selling vehicle to introduce 50 as an artist and launch him. Fall 2002 was a huge time for 50 Cent and this was before Dr. Dre was really visible in terms of musical influence. With Dre, the timing was good as well. Him and Snoop were not working together as much, the Up In Smoke hype and died down, Xzibit was still there but the momentum was slowing.
Another very fortunate timing was The Source going against Eminem in late 2002. This was when XXL came in and offered a truce by giving 50 Cent the cover with Dr. Dre and Em right next to him. This was the icing on the cake.
All the pieces were there. He had the perceived street credibility by being shot and surviving. He had the underground market tapped through the mixtapes. The white kids and the mainstream MTV audience saw Eminem holding him down. West Coast heads were interested in the Dr. Dre involvement. He was East Coast so New York was fucking with him. He had a new artist buzz that reminded many of Snoop Dogg and DMX. His first record was "Wanksta", then they dropped that "In Da Club" joint with Dre and it was game over. Him going at Ja Rule brought controversy as did the whole camp's involvement in the Source/XXL beef.
As for why he fell, I'd say a multitude of reasons. Where the timing on his first album was impecible. A lot changed for record #2. He became a bigger force out of the gate than Em did. He was a CEO before his first album dropped and was breaking artists while trying to work on a follow-up. Em had a secure enough catalog and career by the time he started working with 50. 50 was trying to break Game within a month or so of putting out his own album and in the middle of it, Game was gone and the audience was divided. Artistically, 50 was working at a quicker pace and placing himself on all the G-Unit projects. He gave his single best record of that time period, "Hate it or Love It" to Game. If he'd put his own record out first and used that as the single to launch Game, the perception would have been different. That is a great 50 Cent record. That was the type of introspective, nostalgic music that would have made the perfect second offering after "Get Rich" but it seemed like he was looking to try and get another "In Da Club" type record.
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Great post.
Dargine:
Well honestly, if I just go through the tracklists off all of his albums includin' all of the bonus tracks and just take out the wack/weaker songs that I might skip sometimes, you still got some pretty impressive list, 'specially on his latest albums, just Curtis and T.O.S. was wack overall:
2003
1. x (intro)
2. What Up Gangsta
3. Patiently Waiting (feat. Eminem)
4. Many Men (Wish Death)
5. In Da Club
6. High All the Time
7. Heat
8. x
9. x
10. Back Down
11. x
12. x
13. Poor Lil Rich
14. 21 Questions (feat. Nate Dogg)
15. Don't Push Me (feat. Lloyd Banks of G Unit & Eminem)
16. Gotta Make It to Heaven
17. x
18. U Not Like Me
19. Life's On The Line
20. P.I.M.P. (G-Unit remix) (ft. Snoop Dogg & G-Unit)
2005
1. x (intro)
2. In My Hood
3. This Is 50
4. I'm Supposed To Die Tonight
5. Piggy Bank
6. Gatman And Robbin
7. x
8. Outta Control
9. x
10. Ski Mask Way
11. x
12. x
13. Disco Inferno
14. x
15. Gunz Come Out
16. x
17. Position Of Power
18. x
19. x
20. x
21. I Don't Need 'Em
22. x
23. Outta Control (remix)
2007
1. x (intro)
2. My Gun Go Off
3. x (only because it was censored, the uncensored version that leaked is dope as fuck)
4. x
5. I Get Money
6. x
7. x
8. x
9. Movin On Up
10. x
11. x
12. Fully Loaded Clip
13. x
14. x
15. x
16. x
17. x
18. x
2009
1. The Invitation
2. Then Days Went By
3. Death To My Enemies
4. So Disrespectful
5. Psycho
6. Hold Me Down
7. Crime Wave
8. Stretch
9. Strong Enough
10. Get It Hot
11. Gangsta's Delight
12. I Got Swag
13. x
14. x
15. x
16. x (the og version with Slim the Mobster is great tho')
17. Flight 187
18. x
2014
1. Hold On
2. Don't Worry 'Bout It
3. Animal Ambition
4. Pilot
5. Smoke
6. Everytime I Come Around
7. Irregular Heartbeat
8. Hustler
9. Twisted
10. x
11. Chase The Paper
12. The Funeral
13. You Know
14. x
group albums:
2003
1. G-Unit
2. Poppin' Them Thangs
3. My Buddy
4. x
5. Stunt 101
6. x
7. x
8. Betta Ask Somebody
9. Footprints
10. x
11. Smile
12. x
13. x (because no 50)
14. Beg For Mercy
15. G'd Up
16. Lay You Down
17. Gangsta Shit
18. x
2008
1. x
2. x
3. x
4. x
5. x
6. You So Tough
7. No Days Off
8. x
9. x
10. x
11. x
12. x
13. x
14. x
15. x (because no 50)
16. x (because no 50)
17. Chase Da Cat
2014
1. Watch Me
2. I Don't Fuck With You
3. Digital Scale
4. Changes
5. Dead A Pussy Nigga
6. The Plug
7. Ease Up
8. Big Body Benz
2015
1. Ballin'
2. I'm Grown
3. Bring My Bottles
4. x
5. Boy Boy
6. Choose One
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Blood$ on March 27, 2016, 02:01:11 PM ---the only living rapper who never once fell off behind the mic is Scarface
EDIT: and Pusha T
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Dre never fell off or ever came wack on the mic
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