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Hip-Hop's Islamic Influence
OG Hack Wilson:
i'd say Satanism has a huge impact on rap music
look at Gravediggaz, Big L, Esham, Necro and some of the other best rappers and producers in the history of the game 8)
QuietTruth:
--- Quote from: Infinite on October 16, 2010, 05:57:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 12, 2010, 06:40:04 PM ---hip hop in general ain't got shit to do with islam. every other song is about fat bank accounts, fine ass white bitches, champagne drinkin and high livin. remember cube and ren trying to change they shit and they couldn't even do it. nobody is gonna buy that shit nigga. ren even gave khalid muhammad his own tracc on the villain in black and niggas laughed in his face. nobody wants to hear you praise allah nigga.
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These days hip-hop may not have much to do with Islam in general, but back in the 80's when they were laying down the foundations of hip-hop culture, Islam was an integral part of the movement. In the Zulu Nation you have Afrika Islam he is one of the biggest pioneers, and the 5% movement was huge in New York at the time the pioneers were laying down hip-hop's foundation. Because back then hip-hop was more about the struggle, and it had an anti-imperialist, pro-black agenda, and it was only natural that they identified with Islam as it represented the anti-thesis to white-Christianity.
I still have a collectors item from the early 90's it is a Source magazine, and on the cover are Muslim rap artists and it's all about Islam's influence in hip-hop. They held a forum with orthodox Muslims, NOI, and 5 percenters and they all came together to talk about the differences amongst the sects, and how important it was to them to give a positive message and speak about Islam in their music and it's role in hip-hop. I'm going to try to post a picture of that cover.
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Okay, the Nation of Islam has Islamic Influence..but 5%er's? They refer to God being a 'mystery God'... that ain't Islamiclly Influenced, that's Atheistic. Job callin' himself Allah.. I mean it's creative and thought provoking, arm, leg, leg, arm, head, but man, especially a black man, calling himself God is blasphemy, ain't it? Yeah soo.. I get the Psalms 82 as in referring to one as 'God' instead of 'nigga' but not to actually believe that shit. Hahaha. I like Brand Nubian and shit, but come on, that shit is dumb, to use 'Islam' like that to get at 'Christianity' especially in reference to Job constantly saying Islam was the 'motherland's religion'. lol. When Islam is only a little over 1500 years old and the fact Africans where characters in the damn Bible. Lol. Where the fuck is Job at? :laugh: Come defend yoself nigga.. if he was even serious in his belief.. I mean the 5%er's could 'use' Islamic terminology but that shit is not Islamically Influenced.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 16, 2010, 07:54:00 PM ---
I mean the 5%er's could 'use' Islamic terminology but that shit is not Islamically Influenced.
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I understand what your saying and obviously the 5% Nation is different from traditional Islam...
...yet, you mentioned that rappers of the 5% Nation use "Islamic terminology". Well, rap is all about "terminology". So when a rapper is doing his thing, and he is referencing the likes of orthodox Muslim icons such as Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, or his name is Rza (name of one of the most famous Imams in Shia Islamic history), or Nas (after the last Surah of Qu'ran) or they are fantasizing about joining Iraq in the first Gulf War because "Sadaam Hussien prays the same" (as Rakim does in "Casualties of War" off of the Don't Sweat the Technique album... and so on...
...so what you have to the average listener is is a heavy Islamic influence regardless of whether the rapper is an orthodox Muslim, a member of the NOI, or a 5%.
The Overfiend:
--- Quote from: Infinite on October 16, 2010, 08:31:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 16, 2010, 07:54:00 PM ---
I mean the 5%er's could 'use' Islamic terminology but that shit is not Islamically Influenced.
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I understand what your saying and obviously the 5% Nation is different from traditional Islam...
...yet, you mentioned that rappers of the 5% Nation use "Islamic terminology". Well, rap is all about "terminology". So when a rapper is doing his thing, and he is referencing the likes of orthodox Muslim icons such as Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, or his name is Rza (name of one of the most famous Imams in Shia Islamic history), or Nas (after the last Surah of Qu'ran) or they are fantasizing about joining Iraq in the first Gulf War because "Sadaam Hussien prays the same" (as Rakim does in "Casualties of War" off of the Don't Sweat the Technique album... and so on...
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Interesting.
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: Carlton Banks on October 16, 2010, 05:58:39 PM ---i'd say Satanism has a huge impact on rap music
look at Gravediggaz, Big L, Esham, Necro and some of the other best rappers and producers in the history of the game 8)
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Bingo...you could add literally hundreds more - Dre, Eazy, Snoop, Em, Bone, Jay, Lynch, etc etc etc...the music industry as a whole, not even just hip hop.
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