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Sccit:

--- Quote from: Okka on October 13, 2016, 02:32:49 AM ---Pac and DMX wack? What the fuck y'all smokin' on?

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DMX is not whack, but he's an average rapper

Sccit:

--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on October 13, 2016, 08:31:04 AM ---So, just looking at things, I think the top 3 have to be in order, Eazy, Dre, and Kanye. But all three did use ghostwriters on their classic albums, Eazy with Ren, Cube, and DOC, Dre with DOC, and Kanye with Rhymefest and Consequence (though Kanye did write some by himself too). So with that said, Dre and Kanye did produce their whole albums, so producers get a pass. So with that said, it's got to be Eazy.

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Eazy was a good rapper tho .. His voice and charisma is unmatched, and ghostwritten or not, he spit some dope rhymes with excellent storytelling .. Listen to a track like nobody moves or louisville slugger .. The notion that he was a bad rapper come from the fact that he didn't write, but that, in reality, doesn't make him a bad rapper .. I actually rather listen to eazy spit mc ren rhymes than to hear it from mc ren himself.. Legend

Blood$:

--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on October 13, 2016, 08:31:04 AM ---So, just looking at things, I think the top 3 have to be in order, Eazy, Dre, and Kanye. But all three did use ghostwriters on their classic albums, Eazy with Ren, Cube, and DOC, Dre with DOC, and Kanye with Rhymefest and Consequence (though Kanye did write some by himself too). So with that said, Dre and Kanye did produce their whole albums, so producers get a pass. So with that said, it's got to be Eazy.

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nah Master P definitely takes the crown in this discussion lol

Blood$:

--- Quote from: Sccit on October 12, 2016, 08:13:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on October 12, 2016, 01:49:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on October 12, 2016, 01:44:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on October 12, 2016, 12:05:01 PM ---I wouldn't qualify dudes who had ghostwriters for the majority of an album to make a list like this, saying Dr. Dre or Eazy is basically saying DOC, Cube, etc. lol

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I think the difference though is Eazy was pretty clumsy when rapping. It didn't matter who wrote it, Eazy was not a good rapper at all. He was a gimmick, and Cube, Ren and DOC wrote way better stuff for themselves. They gave Eazy what he could handle.


--- Quote from: Blood$ on October 12, 2016, 12:09:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Game-Won on October 12, 2016, 04:02:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite Trapped In 1996 on October 11, 2016, 10:43:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Game-Won on October 11, 2016, 10:41:05 PM ---The fact that Game & Dmx is on the list... why not add pac, nas or eazy there to.

I hope you are trolling.

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Are you really suggesting that Game and DMX are on the level of Pac and Nas?

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Ofc look at x albums.. he was nr 1 every fuckin time, and made more classic albuns than Nas or Pac.

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Game technically would out-rap 2Pac and DMX with 'bars' but that doesn't mean he puts together better overall songs/projects than them, but he's paid enough dues and released enough quality in his career thus far to be mentioned in the same bracket as them... don't know what Nas' freestyle game is like these days but I still wouldn't say Game would out-rap him lol

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Game had bars, but he would not out rap 2Pac bar for bar. 2Pac bar for bar was as good as many rappers.

Allow me to introduce first: Makaveli the Don
Hysterical, spiritual lyrics like The Holy Qur'an
Niggas get shook like 5-0
My .45 is next to me when we ride, for survival
Money-making plans, pistol close at hand, swollen pockets
Let me introduce the topic, then we drop it
Expose snakes ‘cause they breed freely
See me ride! Located worldwide like the art of graffiti
I think I'm tougher than Nitti, my attitude is shitty
Born on a dope fiend's titty

With all this extra stressin'
The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath
When will I finally get to rest through this oppression?
They punish the people that's askin' questions. And those that possess steal from the ones without possessions
The message I stress: to make it stop, study your lessons
Don't settle for less, even the genius asks his questions
Be grateful for blessings, don't ever change, keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address

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2Pac is the GOAT to me and my personal favorite artist, but I still think Game would out-do him if it came down to a live cypher or a battle, but I do agree with what you're saying since most tend to have the misconception that 2Pac was just average as an MC who simply had a greater work ethic

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2pac would shit on game .. Put hit me up against that new meek mill
diss n get back to me. Game is like a gimmick rapper, and the gimmick is pretty good .. But pac is the real deal.

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Game's had more diss lines that were harder and more direct but "Hit Em Up" is still the best diss track from the intensity alone and the barriers it broke as far as battle raps

Sccit:

--- Quote from: Blood$ on October 13, 2016, 06:05:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on October 12, 2016, 08:13:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on October 12, 2016, 01:49:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on October 12, 2016, 01:44:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on October 12, 2016, 12:05:01 PM ---I wouldn't qualify dudes who had ghostwriters for the majority of an album to make a list like this, saying Dr. Dre or Eazy is basically saying DOC, Cube, etc. lol

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I think the difference though is Eazy was pretty clumsy when rapping. It didn't matter who wrote it, Eazy was not a good rapper at all. He was a gimmick, and Cube, Ren and DOC wrote way better stuff for themselves. They gave Eazy what he could handle.


--- Quote from: Blood$ on October 12, 2016, 12:09:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Game-Won on October 12, 2016, 04:02:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite Trapped In 1996 on October 11, 2016, 10:43:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Game-Won on October 11, 2016, 10:41:05 PM ---The fact that Game & Dmx is on the list... why not add pac, nas or eazy there to.

I hope you are trolling.

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Are you really suggesting that Game and DMX are on the level of Pac and Nas?

--- End quote ---

Ofc look at x albums.. he was nr 1 every fuckin time, and made more classic albuns than Nas or Pac.

--- End quote ---

Game technically would out-rap 2Pac and DMX with 'bars' but that doesn't mean he puts together better overall songs/projects than them, but he's paid enough dues and released enough quality in his career thus far to be mentioned in the same bracket as them... don't know what Nas' freestyle game is like these days but I still wouldn't say Game would out-rap him lol

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Game had bars, but he would not out rap 2Pac bar for bar. 2Pac bar for bar was as good as many rappers.

Allow me to introduce first: Makaveli the Don
Hysterical, spiritual lyrics like The Holy Qur'an
Niggas get shook like 5-0
My .45 is next to me when we ride, for survival
Money-making plans, pistol close at hand, swollen pockets
Let me introduce the topic, then we drop it
Expose snakes ‘cause they breed freely
See me ride! Located worldwide like the art of graffiti
I think I'm tougher than Nitti, my attitude is shitty
Born on a dope fiend's titty

With all this extra stressin'
The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath
When will I finally get to rest through this oppression?
They punish the people that's askin' questions. And those that possess steal from the ones without possessions
The message I stress: to make it stop, study your lessons
Don't settle for less, even the genius asks his questions
Be grateful for blessings, don't ever change, keep your essence
The power is in the people and politics we address

--- End quote ---

2Pac is the GOAT to me and my personal favorite artist, but I still think Game would out-do him if it came down to a live cypher or a battle, but I do agree with what you're saying since most tend to have the misconception that 2Pac was just average as an MC who simply had a greater work ethic

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2pac would shit on game .. Put hit me up against that new meek mill
diss n get back to me. Game is like a gimmick rapper, and the gimmick is pretty good .. But pac is the real deal.

--- End quote ---

Game's had more diss lines that were harder and more direct but "Hit Em Up" is still the best diss track from the intensity alone and the barriers it broke as far as battle raps

--- End quote ---

AND THATS WHY PAC WOULD KILL HIM .. RAW ENERGY OVER BARS, ALL DAY

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