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TOM BRADY THE GOAT?
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 07, 2017, 08:55:49 AM ---A few things here.
I think before, it was easy to look at Brady as NOT the GOAT because he may have won Super Bowls, but it was the way he won. Always on the last drive, but always with Adam Vinatier kicking or a failed comeback by the other team. It was never Brady marching down the field and actually winning the game like we saw with Montana. When you did see that in 2008, Eli threw that crazy pass that stuck to the guys helmet, which killed a great moment of Brady throwing to Moss on what I thought was the game winning touchdown.
Also, Brady's stats were always just okay. I had him many times in fantasy and that cost me, except the Moss years.
With all that said, this was Brady's moment. This was his signature win. This puts him in the top 3 at least all time. You can't argue anymore of him not being a top QB. He led that comeback in the end, threw the game winning touchdown in OT. He's now in the conversation of greatest QB's of all time. I think you have to look at different eras. What would happen if Montana played in today's era, would his career lasted as long as Brady's, how great would Otto Graham be with a modern offense. All of those questions are legit questions, and will be debated for years and years and years. But one question that will not be debated is if Brady belongs in this conversation. He's up there.
With all that said, I must reminder everyone... IT WAS A FUMBLE!
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What was a fumble?
M Dogg™:
https://www.youtube.com/v/ixloKY7HoWs
Basically when Brady pump faked, he started to tuck the ball in as both hands were on the ball. Once that happened, it should have been ruled that he was carrying the ball. But the refs counted the "tucking" of the ball into his body as part of the forward motion therefore it was an incomplete pass. But it should have been ruled a fumble, which would have sealed the game. The reason for the fumble is once both hands are on the ball, he's not attempting to pass but rather carrying the ball like in a running play. If you are carrying the ball, and are stripped that's a fumble.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 07, 2017, 09:45:53 AM ---https://www.youtube.com/v/ixloKY7HoWs
Basically when Brady pump faked, he started to tuck the ball in as both hands were on the ball. Once that happened, it should have been ruled that he was carrying the ball. But the refs counted the "tucking" of the ball into his body as part of the forward motion therefore it was an incomplete pass. But it should have been ruled a fumble, which would have sealed the game. The reason for the fumble is once both hands are on the ball, he's not attempting to pass but rather carrying the ball like in a running play. If you are carrying the ball, and are stripped that's a fumble.
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That was terrible .. Raiders made it to the Super Bowl the next year tho, I remember that like it was yesterday
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on February 07, 2017, 09:54:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 07, 2017, 09:45:53 AM ---https://www.youtube.com/v/ixloKY7HoWs
Basically when Brady pump faked, he started to tuck the ball in as both hands were on the ball. Once that happened, it should have been ruled that he was carrying the ball. But the refs counted the "tucking" of the ball into his body as part of the forward motion therefore it was an incomplete pass. But it should have been ruled a fumble, which would have sealed the game. The reason for the fumble is once both hands are on the ball, he's not attempting to pass but rather carrying the ball like in a running play. If you are carrying the ball, and are stripped that's a fumble.
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That was terrible .. Raiders made it to the Super Bowl the next year tho, I remember that like it was yesterday
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Yeah, but that year was the better team. The one that lost in 2001 was better than 2002. Plus after this game, that's when Al Davis traded Gruden as they couldn't get along. Now Gruden and Mark Davis, the current owners, are actually big buddies off the field. But Al had huge disagreements with Gruden and traded him. Some Raiders even commented after the game that Gruden yelled out, "they wouldn't ever let you guys win." Which they took that, one, Gruden already knew he was leaving the team, and two, Gruden also felt the NFL had something against the Raiders.
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