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The Official Las Vegas Raiders of Oakland Thread
DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 06, 2017, 10:15:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 06, 2017, 10:02:37 AM ---It's an age thing for sure though like M Dogg said. I'm just a little younger and would've been 11 or 12 but I remember. LA was all Raiders, and I never even really knew anyone who was a Rams fan. It was like the Lakers and Clippers (obviously before when the Lakers sucked and the Clips got good), if that analogy explains anything. I would have loved for the Raiders to come back instead of either team. But I wasn't a Rams fan when they were in LA before, and I gave them a shot but couldn't get into them.
Dogg brings up a good point about how much the Raiders were a part of the culture here, especially in the streets. I remember how at school, they used to send us home with letters to our parents saying that they discouraged wearing Raiders stuff.
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see, but how u guna tell me what i feel about something? that's what fucks me up bout people.. i'll repeat it again, i was a die hard laker fan in 94-95 and i woulda been devastated had they left LA .. i simply didn't care about football as much back then. if i liked football as much as i liked basketball, i woulda been following the raiders. but i didn't. it's a preference thing..take it from the man himself.
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I don't believe I commented on how you feel or should feel. I just agreed with M Dogg. I understood the loyalty to the Raiders because I remember it and was into football at that age.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2017, 10:41:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 06, 2017, 10:38:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2017, 10:23:25 AM ---I will say, you get into football at an older age. I wasn't into football until like, 9 years old. Basketball I was into at 5. I wanted to be Magic, Magic's smile on TV got me hooked. Football, I mean I liked watching the 49ers with Joe Montana, but it wasn't until Bo Jackson and the Raiders that I really got into it.
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you might have a point .. basketball is the superior sport and much more appealing to the eye. anybody can watch it. football, u gotta really get into.
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And that's a point that can't be argued. My 3 year old LOVES basketball. He was watching the NCAA tournament with me, sat there like it was a cartoon. He watches it with more attention than Disney... LOL And I'm not even lying on that.
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yup .. it's why i still don't really relate to football that much, even though i follow the sport and watched most rams games this year
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 06, 2017, 11:22:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 06, 2017, 10:15:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 06, 2017, 10:02:37 AM ---It's an age thing for sure though like M Dogg said. I'm just a little younger and would've been 11 or 12 but I remember. LA was all Raiders, and I never even really knew anyone who was a Rams fan. It was like the Lakers and Clippers (obviously before when the Lakers sucked and the Clips got good), if that analogy explains anything. I would have loved for the Raiders to come back instead of either team. But I wasn't a Rams fan when they were in LA before, and I gave them a shot but couldn't get into them.
Dogg brings up a good point about how much the Raiders were a part of the culture here, especially in the streets. I remember how at school, they used to send us home with letters to our parents saying that they discouraged wearing Raiders stuff.
--- End quote ---
see, but how u guna tell me what i feel about something? that's what fucks me up bout people.. i'll repeat it again, i was a die hard laker fan in 94-95 and i woulda been devastated had they left LA .. i simply didn't care about football as much back then. if i liked football as much as i liked basketball, i woulda been following the raiders. but i didn't. it's a preference thing..take it from the man himself.
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I don't believe I commented on how you feel or should feel. I just agreed with M Dogg. I understood the loyalty to the Raiders because I remember it and was into football at that age.
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Man, as a fan, I know it can never go back to that, but what it was for that moment, it was so perfect. Even if they moved back, it wouldn't be the same.
DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 06, 2017, 11:38:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2017, 10:41:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 06, 2017, 10:38:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2017, 10:23:25 AM ---I will say, you get into football at an older age. I wasn't into football until like, 9 years old. Basketball I was into at 5. I wanted to be Magic, Magic's smile on TV got me hooked. Football, I mean I liked watching the 49ers with Joe Montana, but it wasn't until Bo Jackson and the Raiders that I really got into it.
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you might have a point .. basketball is the superior sport and much more appealing to the eye. anybody can watch it. football, u gotta really get into.
--- End quote ---
And that's a point that can't be argued. My 3 year old LOVES basketball. He was watching the NCAA tournament with me, sat there like it was a cartoon. He watches it with more attention than Disney... LOL And I'm not even lying on that.
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yup .. it's why i still don't really relate to football that much, even though i follow the sport and watched most rams games this year
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I think that's why our opinions differ, and M Dogg kind of touched on it in his post after yours. This isn't a criticism of you at all, but we just have different involvement with football. I always liked the sport and watched it from a young age -- my brother and I both played it for a year (but we're just not the typical football size so heart can only get you so far) and REALLY liked the Raiders when we were younger. So it was more about the team, more than the city. So that's likely why the Raiders still had such a strong fan base out of SoCal even when they moved up north (and soon to Vegas), and even after a 20+ year drought without an NFL team, locals haven't been as enthusiastic about the Rams, especially when a lot of them didn't care for them when they were in St. Louis, let alone when they were in LA the first time. Out of my friends in this area who have season tickets, most of them are originally from out of state. Like I said, I gave them a shot, having gone to their training camp as well as the one for their rookies (which was at that same facility in Oxnard) but I can't seem to embrace them. And it's not out of loyalty for another team, I'd just feel fake about it if I did it after all these years of not giving a shit about them. They weren't my team when I was younger, so I'm not going to pretend to be excited.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 06, 2017, 01:27:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 06, 2017, 11:38:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2017, 10:41:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 06, 2017, 10:38:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on April 06, 2017, 10:23:25 AM ---I will say, you get into football at an older age. I wasn't into football until like, 9 years old. Basketball I was into at 5. I wanted to be Magic, Magic's smile on TV got me hooked. Football, I mean I liked watching the 49ers with Joe Montana, but it wasn't until Bo Jackson and the Raiders that I really got into it.
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you might have a point .. basketball is the superior sport and much more appealing to the eye. anybody can watch it. football, u gotta really get into.
--- End quote ---
And that's a point that can't be argued. My 3 year old LOVES basketball. He was watching the NCAA tournament with me, sat there like it was a cartoon. He watches it with more attention than Disney... LOL And I'm not even lying on that.
--- End quote ---
yup .. it's why i still don't really relate to football that much, even though i follow the sport and watched most rams games this year
--- End quote ---
I think that's why our opinions differ, and M Dogg kind of touched on it in his post after yours. This isn't a criticism of you at all, but we just have different involvement with football. I always liked the sport and watched it from a young age -- my brother and I both played it for a year (but we're just not the typical football size so heart can only get you so far) and REALLY liked the Raiders when we were younger. So it was more about the team, more than the city. So that's likely why the Raiders still had such a strong fan base out of SoCal even when they moved up north (and soon to Vegas), and even after a 20+ year drought without an NFL team, locals haven't been as enthusiastic about the Rams, especially when a lot of them didn't care for them when they were in St. Louis, let alone when they were in LA the first time. Out of my friends in this area who have season tickets, most of them are originally from out of state. Like I said, I gave them a shot, having gone to their training camp as well as the one for their rookies (which was at that same facility in Oxnard) but I can't seem to embrace them. And it's not out of loyalty for another team, I'd just feel fake about it if I did it after all these years of not giving a shit about them. They weren't my team when I was younger, so I'm not going to pretend to be excited.
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i get u .. it's not about the city to u as much as it is about the team. that's cool and all, but i see sports differently. they rep for my city, then ima rep them. it's a loyalty i pride myself on. when the team does good, the city does good. i don't really fux wit sports fans that selectively pick what teams they root for, even if they across the nation. unless they moved from your city or u got a family member that plays on that team, it'll never make sense to me.
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