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Anybody want to talk 90's era boxing?
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 01, 2017, 08:32:37 PM ---Really? I never heard about them working together, or even being on good terms. I remember recently watching an Oscar interview on YouTube (not sure when it was recorded but it was likely within the past couple of years) where he said he asked Vargas to meet up for lunch just to kind of make sure there weren't any issues, and they did meet up but Vargas didn't seem too interested in being buddy-buddy. Obviously they don't hate each other (at least not anymore) but I don't see them working together like that.
But yeah, Oscar kicked his ass in that fight, and it was definitely one of Oscar's best victories. But that was the start of Vargas's fall, since he seemed to get his ass kicked by everyone else after that too. When Mayorga beats you, then you need to quit the sport.
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Well, make no mistake about it, I don't think Vargas and Oscar will be exchanging Christmas cards, but they are two business people, and they are talking business. They don't have to like each other, but Vargas is training some really good boxers out LA, and Oscar wants to get the best boxers under Golden Boy. This is strictly business.
https://www.youtube.com/v/K5cCeDc82-Q
https://www.youtube.com/v/V4m6uMTPSnc
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Sccit on April 27, 2017, 10:45:38 AM ---holyfield woulda gotten shitted on if he fought tyson in his prime
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Mid 90s steroid infested Holyfield wasn't going to get killed by anyone. There's guys that could have beaten him like Lennox Lewis but no one was goingredients to kill him. He was too good a boxer. Prime Tyson may have won but it'd be up to the judges.
DeeezNuuuts83:
With Oscar, I feel like after his wins over JCC, he lost to every elite fighter with a name... Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd and Manny. Yeah, it's a good list and better than losing to bums, but it affects how I viewed the later half of his career. Had I not grown up in Oxnard, I probably wouldn't have cared about Vargas, so as satisfying of a win as that was for Oscar and his fans, it really wasn't anything too crazy since it's not like Vargas running the 154 division.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 03, 2017, 12:01:03 PM ---With Oscar, I feel like after his wins over JCC, he lost to every elite fighter with a name... Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd and Manny. Yeah, it's a good list and better than losing to bums, but it affects how I viewed the later half of his career. Had I not grown up in Oxnard, I probably wouldn't have cared about Vargas, so as satisfying of a win as that was for Oscar and his fans, it really wasn't anything too crazy since it's not like Vargas running the 154 division.
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There are 2 phases to Oscar's career, ducking people and getting all the wins possible and building your name, then fighting all the best fighters and making all the money possible. Oscar DID beat Felix, don't be lied to, but the others, yeah, they fucked him up. Mosley's fight at Staples, I remember that like it's yesterday. Once Oscar got his name out there, he'd fight a rabbit pitbull if the payday was right, as obvious by fight B Hop. He cashed in on his name, got his ass whooped but still sold a lot of PPV's. But was about that money. After all, what good is your name if you don't cash in.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 03, 2017, 03:15:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 03, 2017, 12:01:03 PM ---With Oscar, I feel like after his wins over JCC, he lost to every elite fighter with a name... Trinidad, Mosley, Hopkins, Floyd and Manny. Yeah, it's a good list and better than losing to bums, but it affects how I viewed the later half of his career. Had I not grown up in Oxnard, I probably wouldn't have cared about Vargas, so as satisfying of a win as that was for Oscar and his fans, it really wasn't anything too crazy since it's not like Vargas running the 154 division.
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There are 2 phases to Oscar's career, ducking people and getting all the wins possible and building your name, then fighting all the best fighters and making all the money possible. Oscar DID beat Felix, don't be lied to, but the others, yeah, they fucked him up. Mosley's fight at Staples, I remember that like it's yesterday. Once Oscar got his name out there, he'd fight a rabbit pitbull if the payday was right, as obvious by fight B Hop. He cashed in on his name, got his ass whooped but still sold a lot of PPV's. But was about that money. After all, what good is your name if you don't cash in.
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how did u feel about him bein a dragqueen on the low
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