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Countdown to Canelo-GGG
DeeezNuuuts83:
So we saw a one-sided beatdown last night... I think we all knew that Canelo would win, but Chavez's size advantage never really showed up for even a minute, and I can't recall any punches of his that did anything to Canelo. I'm curious if Chavez or his team were aware of any pending announcement of Canelo's next fight or if the same GGG introduction would've happened in the event that Canelo somehow lost.
Anyway... the boxing fight we want the most is coming in September, and not anywhere near its expiration date. Oscar is talking out of his ass saying that it'll be bigger than Mayweather-Pacquiao (and I'm reminded of when Richard Schaefer was saying that Mayweather-Mosley was going to outsell De La Hoya-Mayweather and do somewhere between 3-4 million PPV buys, but it ended up doing 1.4 million), but it'll be wildly successful... I'm thinking between 1.5 and 2 million. It's just that while they're both coming off of victories (and a lot of them), GGG wasn't exactly spectacular in his win several weeks back, and Canelo just beat a guy who was bigger but far, far less skilled, almost like Pacquiao-Margarito but with an even larger gap in talent and smaller gap in size. Plus Chavez Jr. has been known to slack off in his training and really only lives off of being Chavez Sr.'s son. While Canelo has a HUGE Mexican following (and the Mexican fanbase always accounts for a lot of buys), it's hard to get the American mainstream into him since he's not that interesting and doesn't speak English. GGG can, but his limited English keeps his dialogue at an elementary school level. I remember watching his interview with The Breakfast Club, and it's one of the few that I had to force myself through. Plus he's similarly uninteresting.
This will be a war, and I like how Canelo rarely retreats, but at the moment I think Vegas has GGG as the favorite. I don't mind Canelo's one loss since it was to Floyd (and keep in mind he was far less experienced at the time and had to make 152), but his wins against the bigger names were against guys who we knew he'd beat and were also well past their primes. Mosley hadn't won in his last three fights before Canelo and was 40. Contrasting to that, Cotto was coming off of three wins -- none of which went the distance, to his credit -- but remember that he was supposed to fight Canelo after Trout, but he lost pretty clearly to Trout, who in turn lost pretty clearly to Canelo. And then Khan didn't stand a chance, since he wasn't even rocking guys at 140-147 in the last few years, let alone at 155. Canelo's really good, but on one of the ESPN SCs in Spanish, they had a discussion about whether Canelo was that good, or if it was just Chavez who was that bad.
Sccit:
GGG GOT THIS
DeeezNuuuts83:
I wouldn't mind GGG taking this. To be honest it would be better for boxing. Canelo's good, and while he is currently the cash cow of boxing, I don't feel like he's THAT dude in boxing. I think it's cool that he's been doing his numbers (2.2M vs. Floyd, 900k vs. Cotto and supposedly over 1M vs. Chavez), but if he wins against GGG (which like I said will probably generate somewhere between 1.5-2.5M), I don't want him to get cocky and think that he owns boxing, but he will indeed think that. But with that kind of exposure, if GGG wins, that could really encourage Floyd to at least consider a GGG fight at 160 for his inevitable 50th bout, which would be way more interesting than Floyd-Macgregor (or Floyd-Canelo II)
Sccit:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 13, 2017, 11:13:09 AM ---I wouldn't mind GGG taking this. To be honest it would be better for boxing. Canelo's good, and while he is currently the cash cow of boxing, I don't feel like he's THAT dude in boxing. I think it's cool that he's been doing his numbers (2.2M vs. Floyd, 900k vs. Cotto and supposedly over 1M vs. Chavez), but if he wins against GGG (which like I said will probably generate somewhere between 1.5-2.5M), I don't want him to get cocky and think that he owns boxing, but he will indeed think that. But with that kind of exposure, if GGG wins, that could really encourage Floyd to at least consider a GGG fight at 160 for his inevitable 50th bout, which would be way more interesting than Floyd-Macgregor (or Floyd-Canelo II)
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floyd wouldn't do that
DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: Sccit on May 13, 2017, 11:40:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 13, 2017, 11:13:09 AM ---I wouldn't mind GGG taking this. To be honest it would be better for boxing. Canelo's good, and while he is currently the cash cow of boxing, I don't feel like he's THAT dude in boxing. I think it's cool that he's been doing his numbers (2.2M vs. Floyd, 900k vs. Cotto and supposedly over 1M vs. Chavez), but if he wins against GGG (which like I said will probably generate somewhere between 1.5-2.5M), I don't want him to get cocky and think that he owns boxing, but he will indeed think that. But with that kind of exposure, if GGG wins, that could really encourage Floyd to at least consider a GGG fight at 160 for his inevitable 50th bout, which would be way more interesting than Floyd-Macgregor (or Floyd-Canelo II)
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floyd wouldn't do that
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But it doesn't mean that he can't be backed into a corner and have to go with an option that he didn't necessarily want to. I'm reminded of the Mosley fight. Floyd wasn't necessarily scared, but for a while it didn't seem like he was that interested in fighting him (even though Mosley was coming off of a pretty good run so it's not like he was a bum) especially when he popped up in the ring after Floyd beat Marquez, but when Mosley-Berto was cancelled, then Mosley became available and was really the only option. Either him or Manny.
So GGG winning doesn't mean Floyd will have to fight him, but it would really diminish the appeal of a Macgregor fight, because even if Canelo wins and has more experience this time around, we've already seen them fight, and it wasn't that close the first time. And while Floyd tends to want the easy money, I just don't see a Macgregor fight outgrossing a GGG fight. I don't care if Macgregor brings the UFC crowd, I just don't see it bringing so much more to the table.
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