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M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: Sccit on July 17, 2017, 11:34:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 17, 2017, 10:09:12 AM ---I will say, had Colorado not happened, Kobe gets those 2 MVP's that Nash got, easily. Especially the 2005 one, the year he scored 81 points and averaged 35ppg. Only 2 players since the 60's averaged 35ppg, Jordan and Kobe. One of those years Jordan won MVP, Kobe did not. Colorado and the perception that Kobe chased off Shaq made Kobe highly unfavorable to the media and that cost him MVP votes. If we are talking about 5 titles and 3 MVP's, with Kobe, then the conversation changes about Kobe's rank. I still don't put him over Jordan, but he's over LeBron.

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plus cp3 veto never happens=more titles=consensus goat

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Trying to get that Kobe number, 1 over Jordan.

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