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McGregor has no chance against either.
But isn't Holyfield a good amount older than Tyson? Tyson at his prime would've also meant we'd see a younger Holyfield too. It's like saying Floyd didn't fight Manny at his prime -- which is true -- but with Floyd being older than Manny, we'd have seen a slightly fresher Floyd too.
Quote from: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on April 27, 2017, 12:25:17 AMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 26, 2017, 09:29:10 AMI mostly watched Tyson fights and Holyfield fights, till their careers fizzled. But later on I watched Fernando Vargas too since I was from Oxnard. I loved how he wasn't a punk and didn't sell out (and that was a big contrast between him and Oscar) but then he got shut up by Trinidad and then Oscar, and never quite recovered his career after that, especially since he got caught with some PEDs in his system, plus I remember around that time he caught some assault charges for a fight he got into in Santa Barbara or something.I don't know a lot about Vargas, I was really only into the heavyweight division.As for Holyfield, he was a really great fighter, very spiritual man. He didn't appear in the ring as a killer--he was all heart. He even quickly forgave Tyson for the ear biting incidents and his bouts with Riddick Bowe were classic. Maybe he lacked a bit of charisma in comparison to other 90s boxers like the afformentioned Tyson, Lewis-- or also Tommy Morrison or George Foreman--who can forget when foreman knocked out Michael Moore in an epic upset by an aged warrior. Moore was trained by tysons old trainer Atlas and you could even hear Atlas reminding Moore not to be baited into that punch but Foreman won the match with one good punch!!I was a HUGE Oscar fan. Like HUGE. So when Vargas was talking shit, I was so happy to see Oscar beat his ass. He picked him apart, and then when Vargas was too tired Oscar put him away. What's cool now is they work together to get LA fighters out there. Vargas is a trainer in LA, and he's working with Oscar to get his fighters promoted by Golden Boy. So they have a working relation, and it's all good. To me, I was very sad with Moore losing. I was hoping he could be the undisputed champion, just because he was southpaw. I don't know why, but I like southpaw fighters. And what people forget is that Razor Ruddock and Tyson had WARS. They had two fights, and both completely FUCKED each other up! I wish Tyson didn't lose to Douglas, because then people would have remembered the Ruddock/Tyson wars. Tyson did win the second fight, the first one was a toss up, and they should always be remembered.
Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 26, 2017, 09:29:10 AMI mostly watched Tyson fights and Holyfield fights, till their careers fizzled. But later on I watched Fernando Vargas too since I was from Oxnard. I loved how he wasn't a punk and didn't sell out (and that was a big contrast between him and Oscar) but then he got shut up by Trinidad and then Oscar, and never quite recovered his career after that, especially since he got caught with some PEDs in his system, plus I remember around that time he caught some assault charges for a fight he got into in Santa Barbara or something.I don't know a lot about Vargas, I was really only into the heavyweight division.As for Holyfield, he was a really great fighter, very spiritual man. He didn't appear in the ring as a killer--he was all heart. He even quickly forgave Tyson for the ear biting incidents and his bouts with Riddick Bowe were classic. Maybe he lacked a bit of charisma in comparison to other 90s boxers like the afformentioned Tyson, Lewis-- or also Tommy Morrison or George Foreman--who can forget when foreman knocked out Michael Moore in an epic upset by an aged warrior. Moore was trained by tysons old trainer Atlas and you could even hear Atlas reminding Moore not to be baited into that punch but Foreman won the match with one good punch!!
I mostly watched Tyson fights and Holyfield fights, till their careers fizzled. But later on I watched Fernando Vargas too since I was from Oxnard. I loved how he wasn't a punk and didn't sell out (and that was a big contrast between him and Oscar) but then he got shut up by Trinidad and then Oscar, and never quite recovered his career after that, especially since he got caught with some PEDs in his system, plus I remember around that time he caught some assault charges for a fight he got into in Santa Barbara or something.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 01, 2017, 02:30:28 PMQuote from: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on April 27, 2017, 12:25:17 AMQuote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on April 26, 2017, 09:29:10 AMI mostly watched Tyson fights and Holyfield fights, till their careers fizzled. But later on I watched Fernando Vargas too since I was from Oxnard. I loved how he wasn't a punk and didn't sell out (and that was a big contrast between him and Oscar) but then he got shut up by Trinidad and then Oscar, and never quite recovered his career after that, especially since he got caught with some PEDs in his system, plus I remember around that time he caught some assault charges for a fight he got into in Santa Barbara or something.I don't know a lot about Vargas, I was really only into the heavyweight division.As for Holyfield, he was a really great fighter, very spiritual man. He didn't appear in the ring as a killer--he was all heart. He even quickly forgave Tyson for the ear biting incidents and his bouts with Riddick Bowe were classic. Maybe he lacked a bit of charisma in comparison to other 90s boxers like the afformentioned Tyson, Lewis-- or also Tommy Morrison or George Foreman--who can forget when foreman knocked out Michael Moore in an epic upset by an aged warrior. Moore was trained by tysons old trainer Atlas and you could even hear Atlas reminding Moore not to be baited into that punch but Foreman won the match with one good punch!!I was a HUGE Oscar fan. Like HUGE. So when Vargas was talking shit, I was so happy to see Oscar beat his ass. He picked him apart, and then when Vargas was too tired Oscar put him away. What's cool now is they work together to get LA fighters out there. Vargas is a trainer in LA, and he's working with Oscar to get his fighters promoted by Golden Boy. So they have a working relation, and it's all good. To me, I was very sad with Moore losing. I was hoping he could be the undisputed champion, just because he was southpaw. I don't know why, but I like southpaw fighters. And what people forget is that Razor Ruddock and Tyson had WARS. They had two fights, and both completely FUCKED each other up! I wish Tyson didn't lose to Douglas, because then people would have remembered the Ruddock/Tyson wars. Tyson did win the second fight, the first one was a toss up, and they should always be remembered.You're right. The Ruddock wars do get overlooked. Ruddock deserves a lot of credit for going toe to toe with Tyson in those days.