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Bishop Lamont, Dre, Detox, What Could've Been And What It Was...
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--- Quote from: Soopafly DPGC on June 06, 2017, 10:07:00 AM ---Compton was chaotic. Too many songs switching up beats. Dre doing his best Kendrick Lamar impression on the whole album. His voice was about 5 octaves higher on this album. I wanted, to like it, I really did. Bumped it steadily for a month or so. I never get it out anymore. Satisfiction, Diary and All On Me were standouts. 3 or 4 good songs is enough for a mediocre album, and I feel I got my money's worth, I was just expecting more from Dre, especially after 10 years worth of tracks he has in the vaults. I just can't get used to his new rap 'style'.
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Dre is (or was) a master of taking a ghost written performance and making it his own as he had impeccable mic presence but this album showed that he was like a 2 octave singer all those years that was feeling himself too much after a few drinks and karaoke and tried to show off by hitting notes outside of his range and ended up sounding like a cat being hit with a violin, much to everyones chagrin.
I too expected a lot more from him than this sacrifice album but his blatant trend riding just had too much of this effect:
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 06, 2017, 10:12:27 AM ---if u listen to compton witout expectations, you'll appreciate it for the great body of work it is
i can see why someone who was expecting 2001 would be disappointed tho
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Personally I think you've forced yourself to believe that. I don't care about sales, awards, accolades or whats hot in the streets but by Dres standards, previous work and current expectations that album should've raised the roof when in reality it came and went with little to no consequence. On a personal level the album was straight trash for a multitude of reasons but the point of the thread was to illustrate how he simply couldn't have peddled some 2001 style upgraded beats or old content. Bishops lyrics far exceed the beats on his album whereas Dres beats far exceed his lyrics on Compton.
I'm thinking had they both still been working together then both projects would've been something totally different and both would've been getting heavy rotation.
Sccit:
^naah, I genuinely thought the album was great, front to back, had it on repeat for all of summer 2015....the production was excellent and the raps were good too. Dre was using a kendrickesque style, which took some getting used to, but it was bad.....if u remember, he used an Eminem style for a lot of 2001, so it's not the first time he changed his sound, as he's had a multitude of ghostwriters over the years.....the only reason u don't like it is because dre's name is attached to it and u expect something totally different from him. but it's far from a bad album.
Soopafly DPGC:
Hopefully he continues his pattern, he dropped The Chronic (classic) his next album Dr Dre Presents the Aftermath was panned by critics at the time. Then he went back to his roots and came with the classic Chronic 2001. Now the followup to that Compton flopped in the eyes of many. Maybe he'll return to his roots and come back hungry and show he's still got it and can just be himself and release another masterpiece. I have a gut feeling he won't ever release another album though.
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--- Quote from: Sccit on June 06, 2017, 01:11:34 PM ---^naah, I genuinely thought the album was great, front to back, had it on repeat for all of summer 2015....the production was excellent and the raps were good too. Dre was using a kendrickesque style, which took some getting used to, but it was bad.....if u remember, he used an Eminem style for a lot of 2001, so it's not the first time he changed his sound, as he's had a multitude of ghostwriters over the years.....the only reason u don't like it is because dre's name is attached to it and u expect something totally different from him. but it's far from a bad album.
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Good for you if you truly enjoyed it, its a wonderful feeling when a CD just clicks but for me this was more of a clack. Or clank. I'm used to Dre switching up his flow but this album just came across as pandering to the people instead of setting his own trend and thats why it came and went. Disposable music instead of timeless tracks and thats coming from someone who gave the album more than a fair shake, what I'm seeking simply isn't there in this case. An exceedingly poor release from Dre, even by 2015s low standards.
--- Quote from: Soopafly DPGC on June 06, 2017, 01:35:54 PM ---Hopefully he continues his pattern, he dropped The Chronic (classic) his next album Dr Dre Presents the Aftermath was panned by critics at the time. Then he went back to his roots and came with the classic Chronic 2001. Now the followup to that Compton flopped in the eyes of many. Maybe he'll return to his roots and come back hungry and show he's still got it and can just be himself and release another masterpiece. I have a gut feeling he won't ever release another album though.
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It would be wonderful if he followed that pattern and made something new. I'd really like to hear his planets concept album or something totally leftfield with no rappers, another genre would be cool too or he could just start clearing his vaults. Either way Dre is done as he has no need to do it financially and as many others have eluded to before, he simply doesn't have it in him any more and without that spark you just produce Compton like garbage as there was no "Dre" in it, even though it featured him.
I really do think that Bishop could've bought something out of him (and vice versa) but Bishop seems arrogant and Dre ain't having that as he likes to call the shots but I think its this tip toeing around him that made him release Compton as everyone gassed him up to believe it was all that when it was flatter than week old soda as your view of this being "Dr Dre Presents..." Vol 2 is accurate.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: eyeball on June 06, 2017, 01:54:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 06, 2017, 01:11:34 PM ---^naah, I genuinely thought the album was great, front to back, had it on repeat for all of summer 2015....the production was excellent and the raps were good too. Dre was using a kendrickesque style, which took some getting used to, but it was bad.....if u remember, he used an Eminem style for a lot of 2001, so it's not the first time he changed his sound, as he's had a multitude of ghostwriters over the years.....the only reason u don't like it is because dre's name is attached to it and u expect something totally different from him. but it's far from a bad album.
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Good for you if you truly enjoyed it, its a wonderful feeling when a CD just clicks but for me this was more of a clack. Or clank. I'm used to Dre switching up his flow but this album just came across as pandering to the people instead of setting his own trend and thats why it came and went. Disposable music instead of timeless tracks and thats coming from someone who gave the album more than a fair shake, what I'm seeking simply isn't there in this case. An exceedingly poor release from Dre, even by 2015s low standards.
--- Quote from: Soopafly DPGC on June 06, 2017, 01:35:54 PM ---Hopefully he continues his pattern, he dropped The Chronic (classic) his next album Dr Dre Presents the Aftermath was panned by critics at the time. Then he went back to his roots and came with the classic Chronic 2001. Now the followup to that Compton flopped in the eyes of many. Maybe he'll return to his roots and come back hungry and show he's still got it and can just be himself and release another masterpiece. I have a gut feeling he won't ever release another album though.
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It would be wonderful if he followed that pattern and made something new. I'd really like to hear his planets concept album or something totally leftfield with no rappers, another genre would be cool too or he could just start clearing his vaults. Either way Dre is done as he has no need to do it financially and as many others have eluded to before, he simply doesn't have it in him any more and without that spark you just produce Compton like garbage as there was no "Dre" in it, even though it featured him.
I really do think that Bishop could've bought something out of him (and vice versa) but Bishop seems arrogant and Dre ain't having that as he likes to call the shots but I think its this tip toeing around him that made him release Compton as everyone gassed him up to believe it was all that when it was flatter than week old soda as your view of this being "Dr Dre Presents..." Vol 2 is accurate.
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i think the main issue with compton was that it wasn't promoted .. no singles, no videos, nothin .. if the album had that, it woulda been much bigger than it was. pretty sure that affected the overall outlook and prospects of it "coming and going"
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