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KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2017, 05:42:08 PM ---But he practically had a superteam for the first threepeat. Hands down a better roster than the rest of the league.
He wasn't competing against anyone but the Kings & he was the second best player on the team.
& he really didn't need one with Gasol because the NBA was garbage outside of Boston & LeBron trying to claw his way to the Finals with less help than any champion known to date.
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lol @ shaq+kobe and a buncha role players being a "superteam" .. again, the roster was the best in the league largely in part to kobe ..you take kobe out the equation and them shaq teams is 1st round exits with horry as the second option lmao. on the contrary, webber, peja, bibby, divac, turkoglu was all all-star caliber players.
but you weren't alive back then, so it's not a shocker that u telling it through your revisionist goggles.
M Dogg™:
I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.
I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on August 18, 2017, 08:34:10 AM ---I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.
I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).
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at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks
and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sccit on August 18, 2017, 08:44:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on August 18, 2017, 08:34:10 AM ---I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.
I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).
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at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks
and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now.
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It's more riding for Shaq, you know I was on Shaq's side during that whole mess. I think he gets one title. And 2000 was just so good.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on August 18, 2017, 02:04:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on August 18, 2017, 08:44:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on August 18, 2017, 08:34:10 AM ---I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.
I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).
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at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks
and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now.
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It's more riding for Shaq, you know I was on Shaq's side during that whole mess. I think he gets one title. And 2000 was just so good.
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naah .. if he ain't gettin one wit penny, he ain't gettin one wit eddie .... portland was too close to taking us out in 2000. kobe was the difference.
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