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Everything that's coming out is proof as to why LeBron is great, the best physical athlete to ever play the game, but just never could put it together to be the GOAT. LeBron's ability should have had him leap frog over Kobe and Jordan with ease, but he just never could. He was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them. LeBron has been out LeBron'd by Durant, and now Kyrie. He's the biggest what if that's ever existed in the league. And with everything, he's still a 3 time champion. He's surpassed Bird, who's an all time great. On just pure ability alone he's a top 10 player. But if he just had that one thing, that one extra thing that allowed Magic to dominate the 80's, Jordan the 90's, Kobe the 00's, then we'd be talking about LeBron as the hands down GOAT of the NBA, because he was bigger, faster, stronger. But he just never had it. And then we find out he wanted Kyrie traded because he wanted to play with his buddy Chris Paul. LeBron can't ever be the GOAT with moves like that.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMEverything that's coming out is proof as to why LeBron is great, the best physical athlete to ever play the game, but just never could put it together to be the GOAT. LeBron's ability should have had him leap frog over Kobe and Jordan with ease, but he just never could. He was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them. LeBron has been out LeBron'd by Durant, and now Kyrie. He's the biggest what if that's ever existed in the league. And with everything, he's still a 3 time champion. He's surpassed Bird, who's an all time great. On just pure ability alone he's a top 10 player. But if he just had that one thing, that one extra thing that allowed Magic to dominate the 80's, Jordan the 90's, Kobe the 00's, then we'd be talking about LeBron as the hands down GOAT of the NBA, because he was bigger, faster, stronger. But he just never had it. And then we find out he wanted Kyrie traded because he wanted to play with his buddy Chris Paul. LeBron can't ever be the GOAT with moves like that.physical ability isn't everything .. he just isn't nearly as skilled as the goats and doesn't have the mentality to be anywhere close. bird is better .. 3 time champion but doesn't have a losing record in the finals. lebron fell out the top 10 in the last couple months. guna need to win again to climb back in the rankings, 3/8 with superteams in the east is not guna get u into goat discussions.
Quote from: Sccit on July 27, 2017, 11:47:52 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMEverything that's coming out is proof as to why LeBron is great, the best physical athlete to ever play the game, but just never could put it together to be the GOAT. LeBron's ability should have had him leap frog over Kobe and Jordan with ease, but he just never could. He was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them. LeBron has been out LeBron'd by Durant, and now Kyrie. He's the biggest what if that's ever existed in the league. And with everything, he's still a 3 time champion. He's surpassed Bird, who's an all time great. On just pure ability alone he's a top 10 player. But if he just had that one thing, that one extra thing that allowed Magic to dominate the 80's, Jordan the 90's, Kobe the 00's, then we'd be talking about LeBron as the hands down GOAT of the NBA, because he was bigger, faster, stronger. But he just never had it. And then we find out he wanted Kyrie traded because he wanted to play with his buddy Chris Paul. LeBron can't ever be the GOAT with moves like that.physical ability isn't everything .. he just isn't nearly as skilled as the goats and doesn't have the mentality to be anywhere close. bird is better .. 3 time champion but doesn't have a losing record in the finals. lebron fell out the top 10 in the last couple months. guna need to win again to climb back in the rankings, 3/8 with superteams in the east is not guna get u into goat discussions.I think you just repeated me, except I feel like LeBron has past Bird. Either way, he's on that level. But just imagine if LeBron had the mentality of the greats. Oh man, he would have been special.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 12:59:22 PMQuote from: Sccit on July 27, 2017, 11:47:52 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMEverything that's coming out is proof as to why LeBron is great, the best physical athlete to ever play the game, but just never could put it together to be the GOAT. LeBron's ability should have had him leap frog over Kobe and Jordan with ease, but he just never could. He was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them. LeBron has been out LeBron'd by Durant, and now Kyrie. He's the biggest what if that's ever existed in the league. And with everything, he's still a 3 time champion. He's surpassed Bird, who's an all time great. On just pure ability alone he's a top 10 player. But if he just had that one thing, that one extra thing that allowed Magic to dominate the 80's, Jordan the 90's, Kobe the 00's, then we'd be talking about LeBron as the hands down GOAT of the NBA, because he was bigger, faster, stronger. But he just never had it. And then we find out he wanted Kyrie traded because he wanted to play with his buddy Chris Paul. LeBron can't ever be the GOAT with moves like that.physical ability isn't everything .. he just isn't nearly as skilled as the goats and doesn't have the mentality to be anywhere close. bird is better .. 3 time champion but doesn't have a losing record in the finals. lebron fell out the top 10 in the last couple months. guna need to win again to climb back in the rankings, 3/8 with superteams in the east is not guna get u into goat discussions.I think you just repeated me, except I feel like LeBron has past Bird. Either way, he's on that level. But just imagine if LeBron had the mentality of the greats. Oh man, he would have been special.no because bird had the mentality of the greats
Quote from: Sccit on July 27, 2017, 02:08:46 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 12:59:22 PMQuote from: Sccit on July 27, 2017, 11:47:52 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMEverything that's coming out is proof as to why LeBron is great, the best physical athlete to ever play the game, but just never could put it together to be the GOAT. LeBron's ability should have had him leap frog over Kobe and Jordan with ease, but he just never could. He was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them. LeBron has been out LeBron'd by Durant, and now Kyrie. He's the biggest what if that's ever existed in the league. And with everything, he's still a 3 time champion. He's surpassed Bird, who's an all time great. On just pure ability alone he's a top 10 player. But if he just had that one thing, that one extra thing that allowed Magic to dominate the 80's, Jordan the 90's, Kobe the 00's, then we'd be talking about LeBron as the hands down GOAT of the NBA, because he was bigger, faster, stronger. But he just never had it. And then we find out he wanted Kyrie traded because he wanted to play with his buddy Chris Paul. LeBron can't ever be the GOAT with moves like that.physical ability isn't everything .. he just isn't nearly as skilled as the goats and doesn't have the mentality to be anywhere close. bird is better .. 3 time champion but doesn't have a losing record in the finals. lebron fell out the top 10 in the last couple months. guna need to win again to climb back in the rankings, 3/8 with superteams in the east is not guna get u into goat discussions.I think you just repeated me, except I feel like LeBron has past Bird. Either way, he's on that level. But just imagine if LeBron had the mentality of the greats. Oh man, he would have been special.no because bird had the mentality of the greatsLeBron would have trucked him on physical ability alone. They have very similar stats, and played almost the same style of basketball, but LeBron was more of an inside player and Bird was more of a shooter. Still, LeBron did pass him. Last year was to me LeBron at his absolute peak, greatest I ever saw him. And he looked better than Bird ever did. He past Bird, he past a few greats just on his physical gifts alone. If he had the mentality, he would have past Michael and Kobe too.
He was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.
This is where the media polarizing the country is out of control. Kyrie is being a punk bitch. Almost as weak as when Kobe demanded a trade because he had '07 Cleveland teammates for a couple years. Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMHe was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.I honestly need to know from a basketball fan perspective if you're just trying to out-troll NIK knocking LeBron. Boston set the mold, LeBron ran with it. MJ & Kobe were part of a system & excelled at it. A system no one else in the league could figure out, especially with all-time talents & best players in the league running it. Just unmatched. This "tough 90's" you want to believe there was for Jordan, Kobe & Shaq were literally the two best players in the entire league & had to beat the Kings & the league helped them do it lol. It's a joke when you act like "dude...I don't get it, why can't LeBron win?" He's been the Vegas favorite to win one time. Kobe & MJ we're favorites all 11 combined appearances.The triangle, this motion offense the Warriors/Spurs/Cavs run, it clearly isn't beatable. You had the goddamn Hawks winning 60 games a couple years back running it. & the Warriors just have the supreme pieces to run it at the highest level. Analytics are taking over the game & Steph/Klay/Durant with Draymond won't be outshot from deep & if you want to attack & trade 3's vs 2's, you're still gonna lose.Let me ask you, let's say the Warriors win 4 more in a row...you're gonna tell me "wow, Bron could just never get it done?". That's fucking autistic lol. Don't hide behind stupid, nostalgic fairytales that the Lakers/80's Lakers or Jordan would of blown through these Warriors. They would of gotten destroyed just on common sense alone. 3's > 2's. I'd say the threepeat Lakers would win one game because Shaq would inevitably put up 60 & 25. But that's tough to say, because they would just hack him, put him on the line & come back & nail 3's.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2017, 05:33:42 PMThis is where the media polarizing the country is out of control. Kyrie is being a punk bitch. Almost as weak as when Kobe demanded a trade because he had '07 Cleveland teammates for a couple years. Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMHe was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.I honestly need to know from a basketball fan perspective if you're just trying to out-troll NIK knocking LeBron. Boston set the mold, LeBron ran with it. MJ & Kobe were part of a system & excelled at it. A system no one else in the league could figure out, especially with all-time talents & best players in the league running it. Just unmatched. This "tough 90's" you want to believe there was for Jordan, Kobe & Shaq were literally the two best players in the entire league & had to beat the Kings & the league helped them do it lol. It's a joke when you act like "dude...I don't get it, why can't LeBron win?" He's been the Vegas favorite to win one time. Kobe & MJ we're favorites all 11 combined appearances.The triangle, this motion offense the Warriors/Spurs/Cavs run, it clearly isn't beatable. You had the goddamn Hawks winning 60 games a couple years back running it. & the Warriors just have the supreme pieces to run it at the highest level. Analytics are taking over the game & Steph/Klay/Durant with Draymond won't be outshot from deep & if you want to attack & trade 3's vs 2's, you're still gonna lose.Let me ask you, let's say the Warriors win 4 more in a row...you're gonna tell me "wow, Bron could just never get it done?". That's fucking autistic lol. Don't hide behind stupid, nostalgic fairytales that the Lakers/80's Lakers or Jordan would of blown through these Warriors. They would of gotten destroyed just on common sense alone. 3's > 2's. I'd say the threepeat Lakers would win one game because Shaq would inevitably put up 60 & 25. But that's tough to say, because they would just hack him, put him on the line & come back & nail 3's.that's the point .. lebron is sposta be the best player in the league playin on superteams and he's stillnot the favorite. would not happen to prime mj or kobe.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2017, 05:33:42 PMThis is where the media polarizing the country is out of control. Kyrie is being a punk bitch. Almost as weak as when Kobe demanded a trade because he had '07 Cleveland teammates for a couple years. Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMHe was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.I honestly need to know from a basketball fan perspective if you're just trying to out-troll NIK knocking LeBron. Boston set the mold, LeBron ran with it. MJ & Kobe were part of a system & excelled at it. A system no one else in the league could figure out, especially with all-time talents & best players in the league running it. Just unmatched. This "tough 90's" you want to believe there was for Jordan, Kobe & Shaq were literally the two best players in the entire league & had to beat the Kings & the league helped them do it lol. It's a joke when you act like "dude...I don't get it, why can't LeBron win?" He's been the Vegas favorite to win one time. Kobe & MJ we're favorites all 11 combined appearances.The triangle, this motion offense the Warriors/Spurs/Cavs run, it clearly isn't beatable. You had the goddamn Hawks winning 60 games a couple years back running it. & the Warriors just have the supreme pieces to run it at the highest level. Analytics are taking over the game & Steph/Klay/Durant with Draymond won't be outshot from deep & if you want to attack & trade 3's vs 2's, you're still gonna lose.Let me ask you, let's say the Warriors win 4 more in a row...you're gonna tell me "wow, Bron could just never get it done?". That's fucking autistic lol. Don't hide behind stupid, nostalgic fairytales that the Lakers/80's Lakers or Jordan would of blown through these Warriors. They would of gotten destroyed just on common sense alone. 3's > 2's. I'd say the threepeat Lakers would win one game because Shaq would inevitably put up 60 & 25. But that's tough to say, because they would just hack him, put him on the line & come back & nail 3's.Out troll? LOLDude, let's face it, LeBron is the biggest what if in NBA history. His career will go down as a HUGE disappointment. There is no debating it. And if he loses Kyrie, he wouldn't catch Kobe, let alone Jordan. He might get one more title, maybe. Rumor is he wants to join the Lakers, and if that's true, then I'll take him. But his time to be a top tier all time great has past. And it's sad because he's so much more athletic than all the rest. But he just was missing that IT, that one thing that drives the greatest ever to be the greatest ever. Greatness is different from best all time, or most athletic all time. Greatness is that something extra, and LeBron had it once, and I've never seen it again.
Quote from: Sccit on July 29, 2017, 06:25:35 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 29, 2017, 05:33:42 PMThis is where the media polarizing the country is out of control. Kyrie is being a punk bitch. Almost as weak as when Kobe demanded a trade because he had '07 Cleveland teammates for a couple years. Quote from: M Dogg™ on July 27, 2017, 09:24:42 AMHe was always trying to put a super team of his buddies together. He lacked that tunnel vision that the true GOATs had, the tunnel vision that they were going to run through the league, and no one is stopping them.I honestly need to know from a basketball fan perspective if you're just trying to out-troll NIK knocking LeBron. Boston set the mold, LeBron ran with it. MJ & Kobe were part of a system & excelled at it. A system no one else in the league could figure out, especially with all-time talents & best players in the league running it. Just unmatched. This "tough 90's" you want to believe there was for Jordan, Kobe & Shaq were literally the two best players in the entire league & had to beat the Kings & the league helped them do it lol. It's a joke when you act like "dude...I don't get it, why can't LeBron win?" He's been the Vegas favorite to win one time. Kobe & MJ we're favorites all 11 combined appearances.The triangle, this motion offense the Warriors/Spurs/Cavs run, it clearly isn't beatable. You had the goddamn Hawks winning 60 games a couple years back running it. & the Warriors just have the supreme pieces to run it at the highest level. Analytics are taking over the game & Steph/Klay/Durant with Draymond won't be outshot from deep & if you want to attack & trade 3's vs 2's, you're still gonna lose.Let me ask you, let's say the Warriors win 4 more in a row...you're gonna tell me "wow, Bron could just never get it done?". That's fucking autistic lol. Don't hide behind stupid, nostalgic fairytales that the Lakers/80's Lakers or Jordan would of blown through these Warriors. They would of gotten destroyed just on common sense alone. 3's > 2's. I'd say the threepeat Lakers would win one game because Shaq would inevitably put up 60 & 25. But that's tough to say, because they would just hack him, put him on the line & come back & nail 3's.that's the point .. lebron is sposta be the best player in the league playin on superteams and he's stillnot the favorite. would not happen to prime mj or kobe. Na lmfao. That's where your sports fanhood is limited to the ESPN-like storylines lol. Which I respect because it's like a boyish love of the fantasy that's built up as sports. But in the real world, Vegas isn't in the business of losing money. There's zero bias, zero "I'm a Kobe fan so fuck LeBron", just straight "who is the better TEAM?". If LeBron doesn't play up to par like the Mavs series, then that's shame on him. But if the dude is averaging a triple double on 56% shooting, that just proves Vegas knows what they're talking about. He wasn't suppose to win.
kryie ain't done shit without Bron besides get lotto pix lmao