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TraceOneInfinite:
First off, I love the documentary.  This is just for conversation sake for the die hard fans.

In both Defiant Onez and in the NWA movie Dre seems to make it as if he had not seen Cube in forever, since the NWA beef, and like they linked back up visiting Eazy in the hospital when he was dying of AIDS.

Of course, in truth, Dre and Cube were tight throughout Dre's Death Row period with Cubes cameo in "Let Me Ride"--their epic song and video "Natural Born Killaz" and the Helter Skelter project was advertised on Doggystyle as an intended Death Row release.

Anyway... not a big deal... just pointing it out.  Another thing..

They also greatly exaggerated Dre's mishaps in the early days of Aftermath.  King Tee confirmed in an interview last year was that the attitude around the label was always positive and that they were winning.  Aftermath Presents and the Firm were both platinum albums--likely 2 times over...Firm even entered the charts at #1.

Ofcourse critically they were subpar by Dre's standards, but still... it seems to me an embellishment for Jimmy to suggest Dre owed money and that he was getting pressure to drop Dre.  Then Eminem suggesting Dre was under pressure and the whole label being against him signing a white artist.

At the end of the day he was fucking Dr. Dre.  And I highly doubt Interscope was just going to drop him after two platinum albums, and definitely no one at his own label was gonna question him over who he wanted to sign and work with.  There might of been whispers, but that was all exaggerated for effect on Defiant Onez.

They wanted to create the Jesus narrative of Dre rising up again and again.  Wrecking Cru was dope and still successful but they made it sound like Dre was down and out after Wrecking Cru.  I also don't buy the narrative of the Chronic getting turned down by all these labels--I doubt he shopped it around and got turned down.  The lawsuits may of been and issue but I don't picture Dre "shopping around" the album.  It was sought after from the beggining.  It's not like Dre had to go around begging people.

My point is Dre did take some risks in his career like leaving Death Row but there were no such low points in his career.  He was always in demand and sought after, and had bright prospects for success.

MakCorleone:
The part where Jimmy said they bailed Pac i think its BS, if they put some money probably was Pac's royalties from MATW

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: MakCorleone on August 20, 2017, 11:29:50 AM ---The part where Jimmy said they bailed Pac i think its BS, if they put some money probably was Pac's royalties from MATW

--- End quote ---

Well that depends.  I mean... if we are talking about where did the money come from?  I do believe that they fronted the money and Suge secured it from them.  Maybe it was money that was already owed Pac, or maybe by way of Suge going and bullying/extorting the money out of them you can kind of say it was Suge's money. 

It probably went down the way Jimmy says it went down.  I mean, it's not like his career hinges on coming up with a false narrative for the Pac bailout story in 2017 

But either way it's not B.S. 

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They're rich now and once people get rich they wash their legacies and reimage their history and presentation to the world and that's all this one. Truth and lies woven together and slickly presented to make them both appear more than they are for new generations that will take this as gospel.

me1:
Firm and Aftermath Presents were indeed both massive flops that left the label in the hole. Massive production budgets, marketing, etc. Compared to what Dre had done prior, they were monumental failures. That's why T was shelved. No one could justify the expense of promotion etc.

That wasn't an exaggeration at all. Dre had yet to redefine his sound, find new talent to cultivate, and was at risk of losing whatever budget he had to accomplish both

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