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Eminem - Revival (2017) (Official (Official Discussion))

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Blood$:

--- Quote from: Dogg Ly Dogg on December 16, 2017, 12:06:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on December 16, 2017, 07:20:06 AM ---Boosie and Jeezy's albums > this weed plate

if you think otherwise your taste just flat out sucks and your rap pass needs revoked

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This week's release:

AD > Trizz > BROCKHAMPTON > N.E.R.D. >  Jeezy & Boosie > G-Eazy > Eminem

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no way is AD's joint better than Boosie or Jeezy IMO but to each their own, never heard of Triz or Brock, I don't listen to G-Eazy, haven't peeped the new N.E.R.D yet, but Em definitely came in a far last this week which is something that would have been a folk tale in 2004 lol

and he'll still come out at #1 with the most units sold because of sheeple with no taste, I'm sure the stores will be getting a bunch of returns after the fact  :laugh:

Sccit:
mozzy and big krit album shit on all them

me1:
The choice to go with that stadium rock bullshit Alex Da Kid nonsense for basically the entire middle of the album is indefensible. I'm sorry....Paul Rosenberg, the folks at Interscope, Em himself...lots of blame to spread around. He always succumbs to someone at the label that presses x, y or z for a single to start promo, but then, typically, he has control over the project and his judgement is at least reasonably sound.

This go around? The Rick Rubin joints are stale AF. It's cool he devoted two songs to Kim but to devote so much time and energy to relationships on, I don't know, like 4,5 joints is fucking ridiculous. Who wants that. NO ONE. Guess he's going through something with someone we don't know about cause he's talking about that for like 40% of the album.

I know better than to expect to get what I want from an Em album...I'm hopeful, but never actually expecting to get an album of him just spitting. So, I'll pretend like 10 songs off this shit just straight up didn't happen. I'll pretend that Dre didnt only produce a 23 second interlude (a banger, nonetheless) and mix only two joints (Rick Rubin joints; sound great, but suck).

I will bump, in heavy rotation, the following:

Believe, Chloraseptic, Framed, Offended, Castle and Arose.

So my question is if he can spit on bangers like he did on Believe, and he can make heartfelt shit that you truly feel like he did on Arose, can or can't he make a 45 minute long album of only those kinds of tracks?  Those six songs are 27 minutes long. Jay's 4:44 was say 38 minutes or whatever it was. Short as hell. But cohesive. The sound of one artist, one producer.

Can Em do that for 50 minutes for us? Or does he only have 27 minutes of that shit in him? Cause the flows and rhyme structure and beat selection and the way he connects on the best of this album are as good as some of his best stuff. The other stuff from the Recovery cutting room floor era, Detox: Take 1 of 100 (I Need A Doctor era) recording sessions, Shady XV leftovers I just can't believe someone in his camp said I FUCKING LOVE THIS. THE ALBUM IS DONE.

Makes me laugh thinking of Iovine listening to this....dude wasn't even sure of Eminem when Em was Em in 97-02. What did he think of Tragic Endings feat Skylar Grey? What demographic did he think that would appeal to? For real. Who, where are they?

It's crazy that Em actually produced that Believe beat. BANGS. Denaun on Chloraseptic (heavy Dre influence there). Fredwreck. Throw in some Alchemist heat..he can't give us more than that? He really THAT corny that he actually likes the cheesy shit he put on this? I always expect to skip some of his shit, but never this much

Marco:

Detox Is A Myth!!!:
This is not really a good album, imo, but it's better than his previous one.  Yes, the production mostly succs and is weirdly low-budget sounding, it's too long and exhaustive to be enjoyable, there are lots of corny punchlines, Em's voice isn't as nimble as it used to be (he's pretty non-musical throughout), and he desperately misses Dr. Dre's knacc for constructing actual songs -- without Dre, Em is generally writing acapella pun-filled freestyles that he raps as quickly as possible, as if he writes his songs before he even has a skeleton beat to write to.  It's a songwriting process that isn't working, Em!

Having said that, I do like some stuff here, like "Framed" (no surprise that Fred produced the best tracc on the album), and "Untouchable" is substantive and commendable; I appreciate his sentiments.  Em seems to have his heart in the right direction, but his albums these days lacc musicality.  He needs Dre, desperately.  Em used to make good music.  Now he just writes technically proficient raps seemingly without regard to constructing actual good SONGS/music.

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