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Eminem - Kamikaze (Official Discussion)

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doggfather:
https://www.youtube.com/v/kwhad3hGZmA&feature=youtu.be

JohnnyL:

--- Quote from: doggfather on September 05, 2018, 07:04:23 AM ---https://www.youtube.com/v/kwhad3hGZmA&feature=youtu.be

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Thanks for posting.  It's interesting to hear what Budden has to say.  I've been a Budden fan.  I'm a huge Slaughterhouse fan, and I've even enjoyed listening to Budden's podcast before. But honestly, if he's going to talk shit on his podcast but not answer back with a proper response in a song and hide behind his retirement, that's just weak.  To be fair, I don't think that what Joe Budden originally said about "Revival" was unfair.  But it also seems a little chickenshit to come out on his podcast and say "well, what I really thought the whole time I was signed to Shady was that you sucked."

Blood$:

--- Quote from: JohnnyL on September 05, 2018, 02:25:39 AM ---
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--- Quote from: Blood$ on September 03, 2018, 05:03:50 PM ---didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

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LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

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For what it's worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn't rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.

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ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol

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That's just how I see it.  I respect that you don't agree.  I'm not trying to change your mind.  To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he's ever been on MMLP2.  The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production.  I'm not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production.  He way overuses the old rock samples.  But that only represents a few tracks on the album.

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I respect that, to be fair it's mostly the production I have issues with for that album but some of his flows were kinda meh to me from what I can recall too... "Rap God" has to be one of the most overrated songs in hip-hop history lol also just the mere fact he declared it the sequel to his best work and fell so short

on this Kamikaze album he seems to be back in form and he was snapping on a few joints, I just don't know how much replay value this will have especially with so much other music out

JohnnyL:

--- Quote from: Blood$ on September 05, 2018, 08:21:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on September 05, 2018, 02:25:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on September 04, 2018, 02:53:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: JohnnyL on September 04, 2018, 05:52:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on September 03, 2018, 08:12:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Blood$ on September 03, 2018, 05:03:50 PM ---didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

--- End quote ---

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

--- End quote ---

For what it's worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn't rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.

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ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol

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That's just how I see it.  I respect that you don't agree.  I'm not trying to change your mind.  To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he's ever been on MMLP2.  The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production.  I'm not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production.  He way overuses the old rock samples.  But that only represents a few tracks on the album.

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I respect that, to be fair it's mostly the production I have issues with for that album but some of his flows were kinda meh to me from what I can recall too... "Rap God" has to be one of the most overrated songs in hip-hop history lol also just the mere fact he declared it the sequel to his best work and fell so short

on this Kamikaze album he seems to be back in form and he was snapping on a few joints, I just don't know how much replay value this will have especially with so much other music out

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Fair point.  Time will tell, regarding how well it holds up.  I think the production on Kamikaze is hit or miss, but I do
appreciate that he did away with all the rock samples on this one.

Blood$:


lol even I think this dude was a bit harsh on the album, I would have given it at least a 6/10 - 7/10

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