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EMINEM - MUSIC TO BE MURDERED BY (Official Discussion)
Jay_J:
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 19, 2020, 11:09:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 19, 2020, 04:55:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 18, 2020, 03:48:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 18, 2020, 01:28:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on January 17, 2020, 02:07:11 PM ---I'm sorry but I know these young kids are impressed by how fast Em can rap but doesn't matter to me. Em has pretty much done all he can do, it's a miracle he pulled off MMLP2 so late in his career and cuts like "guts over fear" but now he's gained a new generation of fans cause I think they are awed by his skill I guess... but maybe it's hard for older fans to be awed cause he's done everything he can do in the game
Starts off well but ended up being another Revival. I didn't like the Kamikazee album either, btw
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i almost agree all that you wrote, except Kamikaze. it was a good one. ringer, lucky you, stepping stone,
venom were jointz for old fans.
mmlp2 was also an album which satisfied both old and new fans.
but music to be murdered by sounds like another revival.
and dre is not able to push artist to next level. he even does opposite, he pulls the potential down... thats what happened on Oxnard with Paak. thats why he wanted to relase another album so quick and didnt let dre involved in it. yeah i mean Ventura. Kendrick also doesnt let Dre to pull him down. everybody is waiting for a Kendrick album produced by Dr. Dre but it would be a big disapointment and kendrick knows it, smart boy.
dem jointz and focus might be good musicians and geniuses but their and dre's chemistry didnt fit each other.
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this is misinformation
oxnard and ventura were planned like that ahead of time
oxnard was to be the rap album and ventura the soul album
because paak is not a natural rapper, oxnard didn't come out as good (tho it was not a bad project)
but it had absolutely nothin to do with dres production and everything to do wit paak bein naturally more of a singer than a rapper
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Paak said that he told dre he wants to executive produce his next album with his own way and dre answered "ok you are ready to fly on your own wings lets see what you can do".
If dre was involved in venture, it was going to fail somehow. Without dre, paak is able to put his potential on ventura. Paak knew it. Kendrick knows it.
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you literally have no idea what u talkin bout
it was planned like that from the beginning .. one rap album by dre and one soul album by paak
believe me
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thats gonna be a shame for you. don't comment next time before you have some knowledge about it.
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.50732/title.anderson-paaks-idea-for-ventura-album-had-dr-dre-scratching-his-head
"When Dre and Paak initially hopped in the studio together to work on Oxnard, the Doctor wasn't even aware the ambitious artist wanted to do two albums.
"Ventura is a blessing," he says. "I told Dre when we were maybe about 80 percent into the Oxnard record that I wanted to actually do two records and he started scratching his head. I was like, ‘Trust me, I got a gift.'
https://djbooth.net/features/2019-03-12-anderson-paak-ventura-new-album
"Paak adds: "[Dr. Dre] let me have a lot of leeway on Ventura. He was like, it seems like you got it. I spread my wings on the production and on the writing and on these collaborations.
As .Paak explained in his interview, Oxnard was less so about Anderson .Paak's sound, and more of him being a "vessel" for Dr. Dre. They took the Oxnard journey together, which, while commendable, produced mixed results."
dnjp4life:
Just looking at the production credits and theme of the album I'm getting a more mature 'Relapse' vibe from this project before actually delving in and listening to it fully (wasn't Dewaun Parker heavily involved in producing Relapse alongside Dr. Dre?). However, some of the features give me the impression that the album could be a continuation of Revival in sound as well as the hardness of Kamikaze.
I can't wait to hear.
Lucifuge:
Lyricisam at the best, wordplays are crazy.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 19, 2020, 11:52:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 19, 2020, 11:09:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 19, 2020, 04:55:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 18, 2020, 03:48:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 18, 2020, 01:28:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on January 17, 2020, 02:07:11 PM ---I'm sorry but I know these young kids are impressed by how fast Em can rap but doesn't matter to me. Em has pretty much done all he can do, it's a miracle he pulled off MMLP2 so late in his career and cuts like "guts over fear" but now he's gained a new generation of fans cause I think they are awed by his skill I guess... but maybe it's hard for older fans to be awed cause he's done everything he can do in the game
Starts off well but ended up being another Revival. I didn't like the Kamikazee album either, btw
--- End quote ---
i almost agree all that you wrote, except Kamikaze. it was a good one. ringer, lucky you, stepping stone,
venom were jointz for old fans.
mmlp2 was also an album which satisfied both old and new fans.
but music to be murdered by sounds like another revival.
and dre is not able to push artist to next level. he even does opposite, he pulls the potential down... thats what happened on Oxnard with Paak. thats why he wanted to relase another album so quick and didnt let dre involved in it. yeah i mean Ventura. Kendrick also doesnt let Dre to pull him down. everybody is waiting for a Kendrick album produced by Dr. Dre but it would be a big disapointment and kendrick knows it, smart boy.
dem jointz and focus might be good musicians and geniuses but their and dre's chemistry didnt fit each other.
--- End quote ---
this is misinformation
oxnard and ventura were planned like that ahead of time
oxnard was to be the rap album and ventura the soul album
because paak is not a natural rapper, oxnard didn't come out as good (tho it was not a bad project)
but it had absolutely nothin to do with dres production and everything to do wit paak bein naturally more of a singer than a rapper
--- End quote ---
Paak said that he told dre he wants to executive produce his next album with his own way and dre answered "ok you are ready to fly on your own wings lets see what you can do".
If dre was involved in venture, it was going to fail somehow. Without dre, paak is able to put his potential on ventura. Paak knew it. Kendrick knows it.
--- End quote ---
you literally have no idea what u talkin bout
it was planned like that from the beginning .. one rap album by dre and one soul album by paak
believe me
--- End quote ---
thats gonna be a shame for you. don't comment next time before you have some knowledge about it.
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.50732/title.anderson-paaks-idea-for-ventura-album-had-dr-dre-scratching-his-head
"When Dre and Paak initially hopped in the studio together to work on Oxnard, the Doctor wasn't even aware the ambitious artist wanted to do two albums.
"Ventura is a blessing," he says. "I told Dre when we were maybe about 80 percent into the Oxnard record that I wanted to actually do two records and he started scratching his head. I was like, ‘Trust me, I got a gift.'
https://djbooth.net/features/2019-03-12-anderson-paak-ventura-new-album
"Paak adds: "[Dr. Dre] let me have a lot of leeway on Ventura. He was like, it seems like you got it. I spread my wings on the production and on the writing and on these collaborations.
As .Paak explained in his interview, Oxnard was less so about Anderson .Paak's sound, and more of him being a "vessel" for Dr. Dre. They took the Oxnard journey together, which, while commendable, produced mixed results."
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this is exactly what i said
the hip-hop album was dre and the soul album wasn't, but paak wanted to do both before oxnard was complete
pay attention
Jay_J:
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 20, 2020, 12:35:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 19, 2020, 11:52:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 19, 2020, 11:09:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 19, 2020, 04:55:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on January 18, 2020, 03:48:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cey_Cey on January 18, 2020, 01:28:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on January 17, 2020, 02:07:11 PM ---I'm sorry but I know these young kids are impressed by how fast Em can rap but doesn't matter to me. Em has pretty much done all he can do, it's a miracle he pulled off MMLP2 so late in his career and cuts like "guts over fear" but now he's gained a new generation of fans cause I think they are awed by his skill I guess... but maybe it's hard for older fans to be awed cause he's done everything he can do in the game
Starts off well but ended up being another Revival. I didn't like the Kamikazee album either, btw
--- End quote ---
i almost agree all that you wrote, except Kamikaze. it was a good one. ringer, lucky you, stepping stone,
venom were jointz for old fans.
mmlp2 was also an album which satisfied both old and new fans.
but music to be murdered by sounds like another revival.
and dre is not able to push artist to next level. he even does opposite, he pulls the potential down... thats what happened on Oxnard with Paak. thats why he wanted to relase another album so quick and didnt let dre involved in it. yeah i mean Ventura. Kendrick also doesnt let Dre to pull him down. everybody is waiting for a Kendrick album produced by Dr. Dre but it would be a big disapointment and kendrick knows it, smart boy.
dem jointz and focus might be good musicians and geniuses but their and dre's chemistry didnt fit each other.
--- End quote ---
this is misinformation
oxnard and ventura were planned like that ahead of time
oxnard was to be the rap album and ventura the soul album
because paak is not a natural rapper, oxnard didn't come out as good (tho it was not a bad project)
but it had absolutely nothin to do with dres production and everything to do wit paak bein naturally more of a singer than a rapper
--- End quote ---
Paak said that he told dre he wants to executive produce his next album with his own way and dre answered "ok you are ready to fly on your own wings lets see what you can do".
If dre was involved in venture, it was going to fail somehow. Without dre, paak is able to put his potential on ventura. Paak knew it. Kendrick knows it.
--- End quote ---
you literally have no idea what u talkin bout
it was planned like that from the beginning .. one rap album by dre and one soul album by paak
believe me
--- End quote ---
thats gonna be a shame for you. don't comment next time before you have some knowledge about it.
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.50732/title.anderson-paaks-idea-for-ventura-album-had-dr-dre-scratching-his-head
"When Dre and Paak initially hopped in the studio together to work on Oxnard, the Doctor wasn't even aware the ambitious artist wanted to do two albums.
"Ventura is a blessing," he says. "I told Dre when we were maybe about 80 percent into the Oxnard record that I wanted to actually do two records and he started scratching his head. I was like, ‘Trust me, I got a gift.'
https://djbooth.net/features/2019-03-12-anderson-paak-ventura-new-album
"Paak adds: "[Dr. Dre] let me have a lot of leeway on Ventura. He was like, it seems like you got it. I spread my wings on the production and on the writing and on these collaborations.
As .Paak explained in his interview, Oxnard was less so about Anderson .Paak's sound, and more of him being a "vessel" for Dr. Dre. They took the Oxnard journey together, which, while commendable, produced mixed results."
--- End quote ---
this is exactly what i said
the hip-hop album was dre and the soul album wasn't, but paak wanted to do both before oxnard was complete
pay attention
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ha ha ha. :) you are funny.
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