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Are You In Support Of Black Lives Matter? Opening Post Has Been Modified
Sikotic™:
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--- Quote from: Sikotic™ on July 05, 2020, 08:54:13 PM ---No because I don't support racist organizations.
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You must be a redneck coz no-one else would be that STOOPID!
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Having an opinion that does not match yours or that of the mainstream media (which is bankrolled by the political party that enslaved our ancestors) does not make me a redneck or "STOOPID" as you so eloquently put it. Answer me this: do you think MLK would be down with BLM? Do you think his message aligns with the ideals of BLM? I'll let you think about it for a bit.
--- Quote from: Sccit on July 06, 2020, 06:43:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sikotic™ on July 05, 2020, 08:54:13 PM ---No because I don't support racist organizations.
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how are they racist? against white people??
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They are racist because they are no better than the Ku Klux Klan. What does the KKK preach? They believe white people are better than any other ethnic group. There's no equality in that right?
So now if you look at the core values of BLM, an organization that gets angry if you do not value their lives above all others. An organization that wants you and anyone else non-black to pay them back for slavery which is something no one alive has participated in and no one alive has endured. Why the fuck would you owe me money? Just look at this past week: we got a fucking black national anthem now in the NFL. If that isn't the definition of racism then what is? lol. Nothing about this organization preaches equality or fairness.
BLM isn't even really against white people exclusively. I mean, white people probably make up the majority of BLM. That's because the white guilt is strong especially in those who had their brains and morals rotted by their professors in a university. Keep in mind these are the same "progressives" that wanna tell you same sex marriage is completely natural and trannies are "brave" as opposed to being mentally ill.
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i can tell you been hanging around a lot of conservative white folks... probably hardcore trump supporters who swear by candace owens. matter of fact, your post reads exactly like something candace owens would spew.
honestly, if you compare blm to kkk, then you are far beyond reasoning with.... while i'm not saying blm is without flaw, there is a clear distinction.
the klan was created to oppress non-whites, while blm was created to combat that oppression.
if you think white supremacy hasn't affected the way the common white person sees a black person, look no further than what just happen earlier today:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ho2xgf/karen_calls_police_on_man_sitting_in_his_car/?utm_content=body&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=3fdca81e584b480ca1cf84ee0126f3e3&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=ho2xgf
and you know as well as i do that this woulda went completely different if the guy was white.. now magnify this times 100 when it comes to things like job interviews, getting pulled over, applying for loans, etc. so yea, that's why blm exists and why there's no movement needed for white people, considering they don't live their life facing these same injustices. blm is an organization created to give black people equality. the kkk is an organization created to give white people supremacy. if there was no kkk, there would be no need for blm. you should know better. you'll get your wake up call eventually.
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I live in the same area as you, man. There are no white conservatives or Trump supporters around here. I don't understand why if an opinion does not meet the status quo some people have to make these assumptions. I'm not a politician.
I'm looking around and having a hard time finding this white supremacy you speak of. I can't speak for you or anyone else, but the white man is not holding me down. I've been to job interviews this year. I've applied to and received a loan last year. I haven't been pulled over in like 3-4 years. Again, these are my experiences and I can't speak on your behalf or anyone else.
There is racism. There will always be racism. Not just against black people. There's racism against Asians, Latinos, Jews, Arabs, Persians, etc. Why is racism against black people such a big deal though?
It's because many African Americans are not accountable for their actions or lack there of. Many of us want to completely ignore the issues in the black community that is causing their socioeconomic issues and they would rather play victim. Children without father figures. Lack of emphasis on owning businesses in your own community. Emphasis on wanting to be a ball player or musician instead of focusing on education and acquiring life skills. Murder and violence amongst each other. These issues have nothing to do with racism. How come Asian communities, Middle Eastern communities, Jewish communities and a lot of immigrant communities that I'm leaving out do not have these issues? They don't play victim and hang on to some shit that does not exist anymore like slavery, Jim Crow laws, etc. They work their asses off and instill values in their children to give them the keys to becoming successful. The majority of the black community does not do that.
It's time for us to stop playing victim. Racism/Karens are not going to go away. BLM is fanning the flames and creating more of a divide. They do not want equality. Instead they just want to shift the balance in their favor. That's what the KKK want as well which is why I still stick to that comparison.
I'll wait for my wake up call to change my mind though. Not sure what that means lol
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Sikotic™ on July 10, 2020, 01:27:52 AM ---I live in the same area as you, man. There are no white conservatives or Trump supporters around here. I don't understand why if an opinion does not meet the status quo some people have to make these assumptions. I'm not a politician.
I'm looking around and having a hard time finding this white supremacy you speak of. I can't speak for you or anyone else, but the white man is not holding me down. I've been to job interviews this year. I've applied to and received a loan last year. I haven't been pulled over in like 3-4 years. Again, these are my experiences and I can't speak on your behalf or anyone else.
There is racism. There will always be racism. Not just against black people. There's racism against Asians, Latinos, Jews, Arabs, Persians, etc. Why is racism against black people such a big deal though?
It's because many African Americans are not accountable for their actions or lack there of. Many of us want to completely ignore the issues in the black community that is causing their socioeconomic issues and they would rather play victim. Children without father figures. Lack of emphasis on owning businesses in your own community. Emphasis on wanting to be a ball player or musician instead of focusing on education and acquiring life skills. Murder and violence amongst each other. These issues have nothing to do with racism. How come Asian communities, Middle Eastern communities, Jewish communities and a lot of immigrant communities that I'm leaving out do not have these issues? They don't play victim and hang on to some shit that does not exist anymore like slavery, Jim Crow laws, etc. They work their asses off and instill values in their children to give them the keys to becoming successful. The majority of the black community does not do that.
It's time for us to stop playing victim. Racism/Karens are not going to go away. BLM is fanning the flames and creating more of a divide. They do not want equality. Instead they just want to shift the balance in their favor. That's what the KKK want as well which is why I still stick to that comparison.
I'll wait for my wake up call to change my mind though. Not sure what that means lol
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Bro, lets be real....theres a gang of right wing conservatives where we live. Of course, California in general is majority liberal, but u lyin if u say you havent ran across your stereotypical white trash trump supporter out here.
Now you're applying yourself to the situation....keep it a buck, you don't really fit the profile of a black dude. First of all, you're biracial, so you automatically have that advantage. Second of all, you favor your middle-eastern side. Do you think if the dude in the video I posted applied for a loan or went in to a job interview that he would have the same chances of succeeding as you? The answer is no.
This is not really up for debate...My aunt is a loan agent and she confirmed that her boss told her not to give out home loans to black people, because they are "lazy and never pay their mortgage, plus are extremely hard to evict". This epidemic applies to renting, leasing, everything- look into the Donald Sterling housing case. It's not just a case by case basis either, it's on an institutional level.
You point out all the flaws in the black community, but you're pretty much insinuating that black people are like that because they're "less than" whites, or Asians, or Jews, etc.....This is prime cooning and you're falling into the white man's trap bruh. Your fundamental flaw in that line of thinking is your failure to acknowledge that black people were placed under these circumstances due to years of oppression and systematically being forced into certain situations by the people at the top. Are you familiar with redlining? Are you familiar with the disproportionate sentencing for black people compared to whites for the same crime? Are you familiar with the crack epidemic which was proven to be a ploy to suppress black folks? No other race was ever governmentally forced into these situations, so it's a poor and extremely lazy comparison. Here is redlining simplified:
Sure, there's racism everywhere...no doubt about it. Racists exist in every race, religion, and creed. But in this country, the racism towards black folks has historically hindered them, and there is tons of undeniable evidence. All you gotta do to see it is open your eyes. If you deny systemic racism, you are extremely gullible and put far too much faith in the people runnin shit. You're content in your current situation, so there's no reason for you to dig deeper (not that you really need to, most of this is in plain sight)..but you have no will to see it, because the people you surround yourself with generally aren't affected by it. It's naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Sccit on July 09, 2020, 02:11:25 PM ---
on one hand u wanna say the government is pullin the wool over the sheeples eyes......and then on the other hand u wana deny systemic racism exists because obama was president lolllll.
obama was placed in office by racist liberals who pretend to be the black man's friend to keep them at bay by using pawns. now your average black person is content in their state of inequality, happy that more projects are being built. did you know obama (along with many democrats) literally co-signed a former klan leader who was in office for 50+ years based on party affiliation?
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so if the white people who hold the power put someone like obama "in charge" to keep black people in their state of hypnosis, some1 who claims to be hip to the bullshit like you should be the last one falling for it.
a lot of black folks claim shit was even better pre-civil rights, when black people had their own shit and weren't forced to beg the "superior" white man for a piece of their pie.
you live in lala land homie. if you wana be a conspiracy theorist and you only pick one side of it, shit makes u look like you're pushing a white nationalist agenda tbh. now all the coons and white supremacists fux wit u heavy, but be careful.. those ain't the muthafuckaz u want on your side, cuz now u ain't nothin more than a culture vulture in the eyes of reality.
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Funny how you wanna make it out like if I don't support BLM then I am a "culture-vulture". There's a difference between hip-hop culture of the 80's, 90's and culture in the black community today. I am a representative of 80's, 90's hip-hop culture. There's a difference between wanting to be down with hip-hop culture and just wanting to fit in with black people.
That's some real wigger shit right there. That makes it sound like you're supporting BLM just because you want to fit in with black people and have them like you. Black people are not monolithic Sccit. Many of them don't support BLM.
You need some perspective of scale cause you got in wrong in the case of BLM and in the case of COVID. Even if we believe the CDC's fraudelent numbers, 130,000 deaths actually ain't shit in a country of 400 Million!! It is impossible in a country of 400 Million and 50 States that you are never going to have an incident of police brutality, racism, or somebody get sick with a virus.
Yeah, like Doggy said, we should always fight to do better. But how you fight is what matters. Any idiot can go tear shit down, that is the creativity of dumb people. But who can build?
Infinite is a master-builder and Infinite has spoken!!
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on July 16, 2020, 10:55:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sccit on July 09, 2020, 02:11:25 PM ---
on one hand u wanna say the government is pullin the wool over the sheeples eyes......and then on the other hand u wana deny systemic racism exists because obama was president lolllll.
obama was placed in office by racist liberals who pretend to be the black man's friend to keep them at bay by using pawns. now your average black person is content in their state of inequality, happy that more projects are being built. did you know obama (along with many democrats) literally co-signed a former klan leader who was in office for 50+ years based on party affiliation?
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so if the white people who hold the power put someone like obama "in charge" to keep black people in their state of hypnosis, some1 who claims to be hip to the bullshit like you should be the last one falling for it.
a lot of black folks claim shit was even better pre-civil rights, when black people had their own shit and weren't forced to beg the "superior" white man for a piece of their pie.
you live in lala land homie. if you wana be a conspiracy theorist and you only pick one side of it, shit makes u look like you're pushing a white nationalist agenda tbh. now all the coons and white supremacists fux wit u heavy, but be careful.. those ain't the muthafuckaz u want on your side, cuz now u ain't nothin more than a culture vulture in the eyes of reality.
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Funny how you wanna make it out like if I don't support BLM then I am a "culture-vulture". There's a difference between hip-hop culture of the 80's, 90's and culture in the black community today. I am a representative of 80's, 90's hip-hop culture. There's a difference between wanting to be down with hip-hop culture and just wanting to fit in with black people.
That's some real wigger shit right there. That makes it sound like you're supporting BLM just because you want to fit in with black people and have them like you. Black people are not monolithic Sccit. Many of them don't support BLM.
You need some perspective of scale cause you got in wrong in the case of BLM and in the case of COVID. Even if we believe the CDC's fraudelent numbers, 130,000 deaths actually ain't shit in a country of 400 Million!! It is impossible in a country of 400 Million and 50 States that you are never going to have an incident of police brutality, racism, or somebody get sick with a virus.
Yeah, like Doggy said, we should always fight to do better. But how you fight is what matters. Any idiot can go tear shit down, that is the creativity of dumb people. But who can build?
Infinite is a master-builder and Infinite has spoken!!
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im just letting you know that you're using white supremacist talking points, whether you realize it or not
that's the reality of the situation .... some1 supporting the fundamental purpose of blm doesn't make them a "wigger"
denying the systemic oppression of black folks while at the same time claiming the government is pulling a fast one on us with covid-19 shows me u just pick n choose when to believe the people at the top are using their power with evil intention
you claim to be 90s hip-hop... all the legends u ever looked up to would echo these exact sentiments. pac, nas, snoop, cube, dre. so in essence, you claim to be down for 90s hip-hop, but really youre just down for the music and entertainment, not the muthafuckaz behind the mic who put in that work.
and that's a FACT.
Cubic Zirconia:
Many of the comments here reiterate the same narrative commonly espoused by people who would rather a "Shut up and grin" attitude than actual progress.
BLM are making headway.
I hear you scapegoating Civil Rights activists for your own selfish agenda. You do realise Malcolm X, Andrew Goodman & MLK were considered radical in their day too right? Infact X still is. Just because YOU don't want to protest because you think there's nothing in it for YOU doesn't mean everyone else has it that good. There's progress to be made. John Lewis, Rest His Soul, gave his life for the movement and was arrested over 40 times. Sometimes change calls for a little trouble. You'll listen to Dub C and Daz Or Snoop and Dre talkin bout causing trouble all day. Maybe you should bump a little BLM.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2oCgMCzEzefN8hubsgrzZh?si=Nkt_PrXNQ8yAMCjS_OpcLA
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