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EMINEM - THE DEATH OF SLIM SHADY [COUP DE GRACE] (Official Discussion)
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on June 01, 2024, 05:47:46 AM ---"Rappers Delight" type style
all those lead singles were cut from the same cloth...even though they were dope
I always liked Ems lead singles but it was the other joints on the album that I preferred
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Not every song is supposed to be dark and brooding and screaming his head off, or trying to prove how fast he can rap and how many rhymes and multis he can fit into each bar, then every song would be like "Rap God" or like "Way I Am".
Nothing wrong with having a lead single that's a bit more of a simple format. "Without Me", "My Name Is", and "Real Slim Shady" are all great songs and great lead singles. I wouldn't disparage them by calling them hippityhop
HighEyeCue:
--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 01, 2024, 07:17:33 AM ---Not every song is supposed to be dark and brooding and screaming his head off, or trying to prove how fast he can rap and how many rhymes and multis he can fit into each bar, then every song would be like "Rap God" or like "Way I Am".
Nothing wrong with having a lead single that's a bit more of a simple format. "Without Me", "My Name Is", and "Real Slim Shady" are all great songs and great lead singles. I wouldn't disparage them by calling them hippityhop
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yeah I don't know if Sccit meant it in a disparaging way...he could explain it better
as for me yeah those lead singles were very dope but because of their commercial aspect they were played to death everywhere you went that eventually I got a little tired of them
I'm more of an album listener anyway I like to just vibe to the whole project
Duck Duck Doggy:
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 01, 2024, 04:29:26 AM ---This is nostalgic - not a great song by any means, average in fact but it's extremely nostalgic and does sound like a real Eminem first single - almost reminds me of why we all hated Eminem first singles at one stage past real slim shady apart from lose yourself - I can imagine this blowing up for a while and then dying down due to nostalgia but not being a very good song. This aint even close to fucking with joints like euphoria or not like us. However it has huge nostalgic value and it's a nice reminder of his better days. He hasn't released an album worth listening top to bottom since Eminem show so maybe he got something this time. Dre involved too supposedly.
On a side note if you check his IG and the comments - you can see how embarrassing his fan base is/has become and the demographics of it real quick. They don't know shit about hiphop
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Yeah I noticed a lot of his new fans are more familiar with Em post Relapse. It was around Recovery/ MMLP2 when he started rapping in his new style. Like sccit said there's hints of that in the new single but he's clearly striving for the old em and we get hints of it when he does that layered harmonizing briefly in verse 2 I think. And the chorus. I think Em still has potent for that vintage sound if Dre is involved
Also it seems like Em hijacked the missionary album with his and Dre has been very supportive and involved with Em album. Ever since Dre announced the Em album missionary was over
Sccit:
--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 01, 2024, 12:31:10 AM ---hippity hop shit?? What's that supposed to mean. You mean like a targeted single, or a contrived single? Or just anything that isn't dark and brooding? Was the original "Without Me" too hippity hop?
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hippity hop = trying hard to show how lyrical he can be, fitting in as many rhymes as possible in each bar, sacrificing the overall punch and meaning for display of technical skills
basically what em has been doing for the past decade or so
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Sccit on June 01, 2024, 10:58:24 PM ---
hippity hop = trying hard to show how lyrical he can be, fitting in as many rhymes as possible in each bar, sacrificing the overall punch and meaning for display of technical skills
basically what em has been doing for the past decade or so
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in that case then I agree. See, higheyecue and I thought you meant something else.
Yeah... I thought his format on MMLP2 was good. Because he had a song like Rap God where he did what you call "hippityhop" by fitting as many rhymes in each bar, showing how fast he could rap.
But then he had other songs like "Legacy" or "Stronger than I Was" where the goal was just to make a great song, not trying to outdo another rapper lyrically or to gain credibility with headz in some sort of Top 5 MC's all time argument.
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