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Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« on: August 19, 2024, 01:54:03 PM »
I forgot who it was but they said that Nate Dogg used to always record and that he owned all of music and that it was coming out. What happened to it?
2 Corinthians 6:8
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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2024, 08:10:27 PM »
his estate is overly diligent when it comes to releasing his unreleased music

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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2024, 07:51:26 AM »
Unfortunately, releasing nonmainstream posthumous music just isn't a profitable venture in these times.  Sample clearances, mixing, mastering, etc is expensive.  The estate isn't going to do anything that isn't going to make them money at the end of the day.  Majority of it will most likely sit unreleased forever.  Best case scenario is that mainstream artists like Dre or Snoop might pay the estate to buy a hook or two. 

2Pac's estate is in the same boat.  Same with Bad Azz, Biggie, Eazy E, etc.  Estates don't care about legacies or are going to release music at a loss just to appease fans who will most likely download it for free.  Estates are there to do what is the most financially prudent for the inheritance of the estate, and sinking hundreds of thousands of dollars into a venture to release music isn't it. 
 

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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2024, 09:04:52 AM »
Nate Doggs family (brothers from my understanding were handling his estate) Unfortunately Nate left no will and with time taxes all that effected the estate as well.. his children are now almost there to run and benefit from his estate and business with music

This is why you havnt seen anyone purchase any books as of late

Mahler is pretty vocal and honest about it… he says they near complete with all of it and splitting the near $3m he left behind and moving forward …

Hopefully he is on Snoops album …

 
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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2024, 09:08:24 AM »
Nate Doggs family (brothers from my understanding were handling his estate) Unfortunately Nate left no will and with time taxes all that effected the estate as well.. his children are now almost there to run and benefit from his estate and business with music

This is why you havnt seen anyone purchase any books as of late

Mahler is pretty vocal and honest about it… he says they near complete with all of it and splitting the near $3m he left behind and moving forward …

Hopefully he is on Snoops album …
I'm confused. What book and if he left behind three mil, how come he needed help to pay for his hospital expenses?
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

Sccit

Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2024, 09:17:45 AM »
blame streaming


music doesn’t make money

Tony Trey

Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2024, 10:39:31 AM »
blame streaming


music doesn’t make money

Bingo. Streaming has fucked over the artists, while the record companies are raking in the money.
 

abusive

Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2024, 12:20:03 PM »
blame streaming


music doesn’t make money
Yall are just guessing. Streaming makes more money than music sitting on a hard drive somewhere. Plus there are lots of ways to make money from music outside of streaming.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
 

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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2024, 01:54:15 PM »
I just refuse to believe that dropping a Posthumous Nate Dogg album woulnd:t be profitable.
If that really is the case they should at least be able to sell hooks to artist while making a profit.
 
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Sccit

Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2024, 02:56:27 PM »
Yall are just guessing. Streaming makes more money than music sitting on a hard drive somewhere. Plus there are lots of ways to make money from music outside of streaming.


lol sure....

it cost more money to market an album than the money u make off streaming

and hard copies barely sell nowadays

most money made off music comes via touring.....and nate aint touring any time soon

thats just facts

 
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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2024, 06:07:59 PM »

lol sure....

it cost more money to market an album than the money u make off streaming

and hard copies barely sell nowadays

most money made off music comes via touring.....and nate aint touring any time soon

thats just facts

Hell, even before streaming this was basically true. The record labels made all the money from album sales. The artists were lucky to make a dollar for each album sold. The artists always made the majority of their cash from tours. Streaming has just made the problem worse. Plus also you add the fact that Ticket Master/Live Nation basically has a monopoly on ticket sales and often own the arenas/venues as well. So now artists get fucked over on the sales of their music and on their touring (unless you're Taylor fucking Swift) and we as consumers can't even go to a concert without dropping a couple hundred bucks.
 

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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2024, 11:06:45 PM »
Nate Doggs family (brothers from my understanding were handling his estate) Unfortunately Nate left no will and with time taxes all that effected the estate as well.. his children are now almost there to run and benefit from his estate and business with music

This is why you havnt seen anyone purchase any books as of late

Mahler is pretty vocal and honest about it… he says they near complete with all of it and splitting the near $3m he left behind and moving forward …

Hopefully he is on Snoops album …


RIP Nate Dogg
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RIP Bad Azz
 
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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2024, 03:22:34 AM »
I'm always dubious on executors or families of an estate of a dead artist citing a high number of works, and always feel that it's a rouse to help families of the estate carve out a far bigger deal, when the perception is that there's a lot more meat in the freezer than there really is. Or knowingly overlooking 'untitled' tracks and alternative mixes of existing tracks to help accumulate a bigger number.

I don't doubt Nate will have a lot of songs though, but if I were a gambling man, I'd guess more towards 100 as a maximum. Other artists having verses of Nate's here or there I wouldn't include on that. I know Nate can record a lot, but we have to remember that Nate stepped away from music for a bit, and also had a few health issues as well as court and legal issues in between, so it's not as though he was recording ferociously all those years.

They should definitely be capitalising on the '6 in the morning' hit this summer. It's been playing all over the UK
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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2024, 08:23:12 AM »
I'm always dubious on executors or families of an estate of a dead artist citing a high number of works, and always feel that it's a rouse to help families of the estate carve out a far bigger deal, when the perception is that there's a lot more meat in the freezer than there really is. Or knowingly overlooking 'untitled' tracks and alternative mixes of existing tracks to help accumulate a bigger number.

I don't doubt Nate will have a lot of songs though, but if I were a gambling man, I'd guess more towards 100 as a maximum. Other artists having verses of Nate's here or there I wouldn't include on that. I know Nate can record a lot, but we have to remember that Nate stepped away from music for a bit, and also had a few health issues as well as court and legal issues in between, so it's not as though he was recording ferociously all those years.

They should definitely be capitalising on the '6 in the morning' hit this summer. It's been playing all over the UK

I agree.  I'm sure he has some demos, outtakes, alternate versions.  And songs that were cut from albums.  And maybe 50 or songs that could be turned into something decent.  But doesn't make sense to me why he would have hundreds and hundreds of perfectly good unreleased songs just sitting there that he never did a thing with when he was alive.  I'm sure most of what the estate claims to be unreleased songs are him just laying down random vocals in the studio and aren't even close to fully useable completed songs. 
 

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Re: Tha hell happened to all that Nate Dogg musick?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2024, 11:29:48 AM »
Hell, even before streaming this was basically true. The record labels made all the money from album sales. The artists were lucky to make a dollar for each album sold. The artists always made the majority of their cash from tours. Streaming has just made the problem worse. Plus also you add the fact that Ticket Master/Live Nation basically has a monopoly on ticket sales and often own the arenas/venues as well. So now artists get fucked over on the sales of their music and on their touring (unless you're Taylor fucking Swift) and we as consumers can't even go to a concert without dropping a couple hundred bucks.
The labels get paid first/more for owning the masters. There is no label in this scenario and the estate owns the masters.
2 Corinthians 6:8
By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;

6:9
As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;

6:10
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.