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Polictical state of the US and race
Safe+Sound:
--- Quote from: Soopafly DPGC on October 31, 2024, 03:03:39 PM ---Also, i want to discuss the idea that all races and genders have the same experiences
For example, because i'm black, i have the authority to speak on black related matters and history and struggles, even though i may or may not have experienced any of those things, whereas people of other races do not have the authority to speak on such matters. The assumption is, because i'm black, i have had those experiences. If i told you i grew up in a very affluent black family, would that change things at all? (i haven't, but merely as a conversational point). Could we be self educated enough to be able to speak on a topic without necessarily having to live through it where race wouldn't play a factor?
Must i be a female to speak on abortion rights? Does a the opinion of 60 year old female who has been through menopause and has no way of getting pregnant matter as much as a 20 year old female? Or is she unqualified to speak on the matter?
I see so much being said on only being able to speak or comment on certain things depending on the race of the poster and to me, i think it's more about how educated you are on the subject and less about what race you are.
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You raise interesting questions about the relationship between lived experience and authority on certain topics.
Your points bring up some valid considerations about the roles of experience, education, and perspective in discussing sensitive issues like race and gender. I agree that education and empathy can go a long way in enabling someone to speak on topics outside their personal experience. In fact, allies often become informed and vocal advocates by engaging deeply with these topics, even when they haven’t experienced them firsthand.
However, there are certain aspects of racial and gender-based issues that are deeply tied to lived experience, which can’t be fully grasped through study alone. Lived experiences offer insights that go beyond intellectual understanding—think of it as the difference between reading about hardship and living through it. For example, while anyone can study the history of racial discrimination, someone who has directly faced racial bias might have a more nuanced understanding of its daily impacts. This doesn’t mean others can’t comment meaningfully, but the depth of understanding may differ.
The example of abortion rights is also a good one. Both men and women can be educated about reproductive health and can form educated opinions on it. However, the voices of women—especially those within childbearing age, as they’re directly impacted by such policies—may hold added weight. It’s not about silencing others but about recognizing who is most affected by certain issues and how that can shape both their insights and the impact of decisions.
Having a well-rounded discussion often involves multiple perspectives: the lived experiences of those directly affected, the insights of allies, and the knowledge of those who’ve studied the issue deeply. When people defer to those with lived experience, it’s not to exclude others; it’s to ensure that the realities of those most impacted are accurately represented and considered.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Sccit on November 03, 2024, 05:23:49 AM ---
on that note, this forum has been poppin somethin serious lately
not sure if cats been noticing, but that snoop n dre album really increased the traffic here x4
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meh... still too nice atm... the forum ain't poppin till Infinite starts catchin hate like it's 88'
Safe+Sound:
--- Quote from: Str-8 Gone on November 02, 2024, 05:41:50 PM ---Deezam.... I read that whole back n forth with Safe + Sound and Sccit in the other threads. Gotta hand it to S+S, that vato can argue like a champ.
But ey, check this out homie... I got a pretty good hunch that foo done time. You know how many homies talk like that who got crazy stretches in the joint? Most of em don't have dates. They read anything they can get their hands on and be in the law library all day.
Maybe you vatos don't know about that life, but I do. S+S kept it respectful as hell, even when Sccit called him a bitch and a fag. That shit would get you handled with the quickness in the joint. You catching a 115 haha. If S+S is who I think he is, be careful with that foo. I seen vatos like that all day - super respectful and intelligent but they'll be your worst nightmare in real life if you disrespect them if you get what I mean. Seen it happen too many times.
I'm not all into politics like that when I don't have to be so I ain't gonna get into it with nobody in here. Plus I don't have the patience for it homes haha. I'd be trying to meet up and handle business lol. Fuck all that, I'm too old to get caught up anymore for lame shit, I'm just here for the gangsta rap, but I just wanted to speak on that because S+S sounds all too familiar.
Stay safe everyone and keep it solid Safe + Sound. I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths before. Te cuidas ese.
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Ya sabes carnal. Ahí the guacho.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Safe+Sound on November 03, 2024, 07:14:37 AM ---
Ya sabes carnal. Ahí the guacho.
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lmao now he bein trolled .. sometimes them booksmarts don’t quite translate to intelligence via life experience
btw .. i took you off moderation on GP …. just don’t be spamming music threads no more homie
Str-8 Gone:
--- Quote from: Safe+Sound on November 03, 2024, 07:14:37 AM ---
Ya sabes carnal. Ahí the guacho.
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Oraaa 8)
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