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TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on April 28, 2025, 05:11:40 AM ---Man I still have nightmares about that 2015 series. I find solace in the fact that the Royals were the better team being there the year before against the Giants. And we had such a weird year, we started off the 1st half with a pretty bad record before the trade deadline acquiring Yoenis Cespedes. So you are right about that, hopefully we can acquire some stud pitcher that becomes available because his team is out of the race

back to that 2015 team the Royals had the uncanny skill of putting the bat on the ball despite us having some of the hardest throwing starting pitchers in the game. That game 2 that Cueto pitched against us we had our best pitcher that year Jacob Degrom and he could not solve Escobar, Hosmer, Moustakas etc. I knew after going down 0-2 it was pretty much a wrap for us

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Yeah, our hitters never struck out and always put a bat to ball.  I remember Yornis Cespedes was a big trade for you but without looking it up and off the top of my head I thought they gave up something good for him, and there was also a question about his D like he was fumbling around in the outfield quite a bit.

I can’t believe I put off reading Money Ball until now.  I’ve always been a fan of it but I thought listening to a couple Sabermetrics Sportstalk guys and analysts was enough.  Boy was I wrong.

This book is fascinating.  Have you ever checked it out.  It’s filled with nuggets like this:  Documenting errors comes from the days of the civil war when they played in unmowed grass and with a lopsided ball.  A guy makes a great attempt at a ball and misses he gets an error, and another guy is out of position and lollygags and doesn’t get an error cause he never got close to a ball.  Likewise, a shortstop makes a diving grab and he’s a hero while another shortstop simply moves a step or two before the ball hard hit gets to him and nobody even sees it, he just feilds it cleanly and nobody is the wiser.

I asked chatgpt who is the best Sabermetrics team it said the Mets.  You guys just became my second favorite team.

HighEyeCue:

--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite on April 28, 2025, 08:22:27 PM ---Yeah, our hitters never struck out and always put a bat to ball.  I remember Yornis Cespedes was a big trade for you but without looking it up and off the top of my head I thought they gave up something good for him, and there was also a question about his D like he was fumbling around in the outfield quite a bit.

I can’t believe I put off reading Money Ball until now.  I’ve always been a fan of it but I thought listening to a couple Sabermetrics Sportstalk guys and analysts was enough.  Boy was I wrong.

This book is fascinating.  Have you ever checked it out.  It’s filled with nuggets like this:  Documenting errors comes from the days of the civil war when they played in unmowed grass and with a lopsided ball.  A guy makes a great attempt at a ball and misses he gets an error, and another guy is out of position and lollygags and doesn’t get an error cause he never got close to a ball.  Likewise, a shortstop makes a diving grab and he’s a hero while another shortstop simply moves a step or two before the ball hard hit gets to him and nobody even sees it, he just feilds it cleanly and nobody is the wiser.

I asked chatgpt who is the best Sabermetrics team it said the Mets.  You guys just became my second favorite team.

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yeah we gave up a starting pitcher who had promise named Michael Fulmer. He had a couple of good years before succumbing to arm problems. Last I heard he was with another team trying to hang on as a reliever

I really need to read that book. Its funny Billy Beane was a prospect for us back in the 80's coming up through the system. He never had a big career as a player but the rest is history of course

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on April 29, 2025, 03:53:30 AM ---yeah we gave up a starting pitcher who had promise named Michael Fulmer. He had a couple of good years before succumbing to arm problems. Last I heard he was with another team trying to hang on as a reliever

I really need to read that book. Its funny Billy Beane was a prospect for us back in the 80's coming up through the system. He never had a big career as a player but the rest is history of course

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Yeah but turns out it was really this guy Bill James that had invented all this stuff decades earlier

And if you search Billy Beane you might come up with a different Billy Bean the first gay baseball player to come out the closet around the same era, kind of confusing.

But yes, I think the actual Billy Bean was even like drafted and projected ahead of Strawberry with the Mets.  It details that in the book but the best part was the Bill James chapter.

HighEyeCue:

--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite on April 29, 2025, 05:44:31 AM ---Yeah but turns out it was really this guy Bill James that had invented all this stuff decades earlier

And if you search Billy Beane you might come up with a different Billy Bean the first gay baseball player to come out the closet around the same era, kind of confusing.

But yes, I think the actual Billy Bean was even like drafted and projected ahead of Strawberry with the Mets.  It details that in the book but the best part was the Bill James chapter.

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yeah i need to read it this summer for sure 8)

TraceOneInfinite:
Well what do ya know… Mets and Royals have gotten red hot 🥵

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