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MLB 2025 Season Official Thread
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on December 31, 2025, 08:04:00 AM ---Polanco is a nice add but we're still a long way from a playoff contender...a couple of starters would help our chances however...our lineup with Soto and Lindor is pretty solid but top heavy, another bat and the 2 pitchers would make us a playoff team
as for the Royals I would expect a bounce back from my guy Seth Lugo and with the injured starters coming back the rotation is more than solid...Caglione has to hit though, it cant be just Witt with no protection around him...kind of like we need someone hitting behind Soto
edit-I forgot about Salvador Perez, Id take 30 and 100 from a 35 year old any day of the week...Hall of Famer
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So you think the Mets still need 2 starters!! To me, that's like saying they need 3-4 starters with the way starting pitchers go down so often over the duration of a season.
As for Salvador Perez—You might not know this if you are not from KC, but actually there's this young local Kansas City guy Carter Jenson at catcher who came up last year and played really well—so local fans are actually more excited to see ROOKIE CATCHER Carter Jenson this year behind the plate than Salvy. Fans are hoping to see Salvy more in a DH role with age and weight problems he's a risk if he is a full time catcher. The problem though is he is so beloved by the management that he often refuses to take nights off from the dish and this goes back to the championship seasons, when Yost would try to give him a night off and he simply refuses.
So remember the name CARTER JENSON--unlike Caglione he actually came up last year and performed.
HighEyeCue:
--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite on December 31, 2025, 08:23:10 AM ---So you think the Mets still need 2 starters!! To me, that's like saying they need 3-4 starters with the way starting pitchers go down so often over the duration of a season.
As for Salvador Perez—You might not know this if you are not from KC, but actually there's this young local Kansas City guy Carter Jenson at catcher who came up last year and played really well—so local fans are actually more excited to see ROOKIE CATCHER Carter Jenson this year behind the plate than Salvy. Fans are hoping to see Salvy more in a DH role with age and weight problems he's a risk if he is a full time catcher. The problem though is he is so beloved by the management that he often refuses to take nights off from the dish and this goes back to the championship seasons, when Yost would try to give him a night off and he simply refuses.
So remember the name CARTER JENSON--unlike Caglione he actually came up last year and performed.
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yeah I would feel better if they had a legit ace, Nolan Mclean can be that, he was great for the 8 starts he had but we have to see more...other young starters didn't impress me but sometimes they take a while to develop
I would give the Royals a better chance at the postseason than the Mets, I even think you guys can win that division...we probably have no shot with our current team but a few more additions and we can maybe sneak in
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on December 31, 2025, 10:26:55 AM ---yeah I would feel better if they had a legit ace, Nolan Mclean can be that, he was great for the 8 starts he had but we have to see more...other young starters didn't impress me but sometimes they take a while to develop
I would give the Royals a better chance at the postseason than the Mets, I even think you guys can win that division...we probably have no shot with our current team but a few more additions and we can maybe sneak in
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8 starts is enough of a sample size to feel confident. You don't usually see starting pitchers ball out for 8 straight starts, and then fall off the map. I only recall seeing it once, the Royals had some guy called Brian Bannister (his father also played in the majors so you might recall the name) back in their 100 loss era of the 2000-2010 and he was lights out for 8 starts strangely and then got destroyed and ran out of the league. Because sometimes a pitcher develops a pitch like this guy had some cutter or something like that, he had little armstrength, but he had one pitch that was working for him, and eventually the league caught up to it and he was finished after that
You see all the time, that one guy has some spot start and gives up no runs over 6 or 7 innings, but then gets bombed in his next games, that happens all the time.
So yeah, I would feel confident about Mclean if I was you.
As for the young starters if they haven't impressed you yet then I would be really concerned. Because I love these Sabermetrics terms like REPLACEMENT LEVEL PLAYER -- or the stat WINS ABOVE REPLACEMENT. Because what that tells me when you say they are young starters that haven't impressed you yet, but that they are young so they may have upside. To me, that is just saying that they are Replacement Level Players. Meaning that there are all these guys on the margins between MLB and Triple AAA and so sure, you can always kind of bring up a guy playing well in Triple AAA and give him a shot, but that's true for every team.
So break it down for me. Break down the Mets Projected Starting 5, just give me the names and at least one comment about them, and I'll look into it. It will give us something to do in these dog days of January and February waiting for the season to start
HighEyeCue:
--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite on December 31, 2025, 11:31:47 PM ---8 starts is enough of a sample size to feel confident. You don't usually see starting pitchers ball out for 8 straight starts, and then fall off the map. I only recall seeing it once, the Royals had some guy called Brian Bannister (his father also played in the majors so you might recall the name) back in their 100 loss era of the 2000-2010 and he was lights out for 8 starts strangely and then got destroyed and ran out of the league. Because sometimes a pitcher develops a pitch like this guy had some cutter or something like that, he had little armstrength, but he had one pitch that was working for him, and eventually the league caught up to it and he was finished after that
You see all the time, that one guy has some spot start and gives up no runs over 6 or 7 innings, but then gets bombed in his next games, that happens all the time.
So yeah, I would feel confident about Mclean if I was you.
As for the young starters if they haven't impressed you yet then I would be really concerned. Because I love these Sabermetrics terms like REPLACEMENT LEVEL PLAYER -- or the stat WINS ABOVE REPLACEMENT. Because what that tells me when you say they are young starters that haven't impressed you yet, but that they are young so they may have upside. To me, that is just saying that they are Replacement Level Players. Meaning that there are all these guys on the margins between MLB and Triple AAA and so sure, you can always kind of bring up a guy playing well in Triple AAA and give him a shot, but that's true for every team.
So break it down for me. Break down the Mets Projected Starting 5, just give me the names and at least one comment about them, and I'll look into it. It will give us something to do in these dog days of January and February waiting for the season to start
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Nolan Mclean - future ace...in 8starts he was 5-1 with a 2.06 ERA 48IP 57K...the only drawback I saw was the 18 walks but he tends to get out of the jams he does create
now for the rest
Kodai Senga - great rookie season in '23 coming over from Japan but since then he has been injured and when healthy inconsitent...he was also sent to the minors in September of last year when we were in the race becuase he couldnt get anybody out, never a good sign
Clay Holmes-came over from the Yankees and the Mets made him a starter...I like him but the doesnt go deep into games
Sean Manaea - signed a big contract after the '24 season and was injured and inconsistent last year when he came back
David Petersen - I like him, he had a very good 1st half and made the all star team but went downhill after the break
now the other 2 rookies
Brandon Sproat - I like his stuff but he only pitched in like 20 innings and had a 4.79 ERA...I need to see more though
Jonah Tong - he was maybe the biggest disappointment, he dominated in the minors last year but in 18 innings he gave up 16 runs and had a 7.71 ERA...no bueno
so basically I'm only confident in Mclean and Holmes and even then not 100%...I do have hope however that at least one of the other young 2 pitchers will develop
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on January 01, 2026, 04:47:04 AM ---Nolan Mclean - future ace...in 8starts he was 5-1 with a 2.06 ERA 48IP 57K...the only drawback I saw was the 18 walks but he tends to get out of the jams he does create
now for the rest
Kodai Senga - great rookie season in '23 coming over from Japan but since then he has been injured and when healthy inconsitent...he was also sent to the minors in September of last year when we were in the race becuase he couldnt get anybody out, never a good sign
Clay Holmes-came over from the Yankees and the Mets made him a starter...I like him but the doesnt go deep into games
Sean Manaea - signed a big contract after the '24 season and was injured and inconsistent last year when he came back
David Petersen - I like him, he had a very good 1st half and made the all star team but went downhill after the break
now the other 2 rookies
Brandon Sproat - I like his stuff but he only pitched in like 20 innings and had a 4.79 ERA...I need to see more though
Jonah Tong - he was maybe the biggest disappointment, he dominated in the minors last year but in 18 innings he gave up 16 runs and had a 7.71 ERA...no bueno
so basically I'm only confident in Mclean and Holmes and even then not 100%...I do have hope however that at least one of the other young 2 pitchers will develop
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Yeah that looks hella suspect. And even the two guys you are counting on still have a little question mark. They are going to have to make a move. There is no way you can expect to be a playoff team, and you are starting a season with only two starters you are confident in and then 3 other guys that you are giving an oppurtunity to.
I watched this video and they had to list a couple guys that they want to go out and get from other teams just to fill in the rotation.
I thought the Mets were a playoff caliber team but if they don't add one or two legit starters before opening day then they are in some serious trouble--I don't care how good the offense is. There is a saying in baseball they say good pitching beats good hitting. So they can have all the hitting in the world but if the starter on the other team is having a good day then good pitching beats good hitting.
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