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COMPTON VS. MISSIONARY ... WHICH DO YOU PREFER?
Jay_J:
--- Quote from: Az on August 12, 2025, 03:01:40 AM ---Played the fuck out of both on release... but ultimately they underwhelmed massively.
Compton Summary:
Overall disjointed - felt like Detox leftovers, merged with experimental Focus/Dem Jointz shit
Standout tracks, Talking to My Diary, All on Me, Medicine Man, Intro
Z-list features that pale in comparison to previous Dre albums - King Mez, Justus, Dem jointz
Snoop features ususally a standout on Dre albums... completely forgettable here
Dre's voice/flow = FAIL
Over-produced
No standout Single/Track
Missionary:
Patchwork album - felt like a mixtape
No usual suspects involved (D.O.C, DPG etc) and it shows
Singles killed the hype
Doesn't BANG on a good system like previous Dre productions :mjcry:
The Sting song - :dead:
Dem Jointz, Gangsta Pose - :dead:
Some great moments - Hard Knocks, Sticcy Situation, Now or Never
Generic ghost writers - Only Snoop album that didn't have one good quotable or memorable lyrics.
Snoops delivery great but sounded forced with cut and paste lines
Over-produced, album made by committee
I probably appreciate Compton more for what it was, and am more disappointed in Missionary for what it wasn't.
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you didn't like "last dance with mary jane", "thank you", "fire"?
there's no dpg or doc but there are method man and sam sneed on 3 productions.
but yes, over produced, unnecessary beat switches, wrong singles killed the hype..
it's not snoop's fault at all. dre will make productions like this as long as he doesnt get rid of ICU.
HighEyeCue:
--- Quote from: b.laden on August 12, 2025, 01:27:24 AM ---there are hundred albums better than these 2 albums ..so who cares ;..only old dr dre fans
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which is the majority of this forum
mlk93:
Missionary By far. I prefer snoop rapping than dre rapping. And i read about paste and copy . Thats all dre's rap career behind the mic. I liked only 3 songs in compton. And dre sounded like he wanted to be in the sound on the moment whan compton came out. Missionary as is flow but not as much as Compton. And remember at that time we wanted detox. Not ComptoN. Compton as no replay value for me. With Missionary they are past their prime so the for me they were less expectation.
gfunk2024:
Missionary.
I love Dre's rapping (prior to compton). I love his voice and I think he commands the mic. When I heard Compton, I was like "WTF?"
I couldn't even tell when it was dre rapping, and the first few listens through I couldn't even recognize the other west coast features.
Compton is possibly the biggest disappointing album ever for me.
At least with Missionary snoop had a pretty good flow and I enjoyed some of the songs. Now Missionary was also very disappointing but I gave it more spins than compton.
Az:
--- Quote from: Jay_J on August 12, 2025, 03:28:23 AM ---you didn't like "last dance with mary jane", "thank you", "fire"?
there's no dpg or doc but there are method man and sam sneed on 3 productions.
but yes, over produced, unnecessary beat switches, wrong singles killed the hype..
it's not snoop's fault at all. dre will make productions like this as long as he doesnt get rid of ICU.
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I loved 'Thank You' and the Sneed/Meth contributions.
Also enjoyed ‘Mary Jane’ and ‘Fire’ but they’re not tracks with much replay value (imo) and feel out of place on the album.
For me Missionary just seemed manufactured... that was my biggest issue with it. Whereas Doggystyle, Chronic and even later albums like No Limit top Dogg felt organic.
Listen to the Clipse new album, that sounds organic. Like they created that shit with Pharrell from top to bottom and the beats mesh flawlessly with Pusha and Malice's lyrics and topics.
Missionary sounds like jam sessions cut and pasted together. Snoop has to take some fault because according to Dre said he wasn’t fully locked in during the making of it.
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