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heisenberg:

--- Quote from: gfunk2024 on October 04, 2025, 08:39:08 PM ---They both have too big of egos. I think both of them still deep down hold a grudge against each other going back to the NWA break up. Both of these guys make music for fun. Why wouldn't they collaborate? They haven't done something since Hello. Actually I think cube was on Compton, but that album sucked so I don't remember (anyways, I don't count that one).


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i don't understand that kind of comment "i don't like it so it doesn't count". No matter if you like it or not, the track is real so it counts. You can't say their last collboration is "hello" thats doesn't make any sense. And they are together on the same track on documentary 2 "don't trip".

goodyoung:

--- Quote from: gfunk2024 on October 04, 2025, 08:39:08 PM ---They both have too big of egos. I think both of them still deep down hold a grudge against each other going back to the NWA break up. Both of these guys make music for fun. Why wouldn't they collaborate? They haven't done something since Hello. Actually I think cube was on Compton, but that album sucked so I don't remember (anyways, I don't count that one).

I mean, Dre has got to have dozens, if not hundreds of beats laying around. He can't give one to cube? Cube can't feature dre on his album?

Like I said, I don't think these 2 ever got past whatever happened with NWA. I think they both think they were the biggest part of NWA and can't take a seat to the other person.

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Man wtf?

Why would they hold a grudge against each other, literally nothing ever implied that....

Cube was signed to Aftermath at one point ffs, they've done a movie together, worked on several albums, went on the most iconic hip hop tour together, put out a bunch of records (don't trip, issues, chin check, hello)

They totally don't hate each other lol

gfunk2024:

--- Quote from: goodyoung on October 04, 2025, 11:23:07 PM ---Man wtf?

Why would they hold a grudge against each other, literally nothing ever implied that....

Cube was signed to Aftermath at one point ffs, they've done a movie together, worked on several albums, went on the most iconic hip hop tour together, put out a bunch of records (don't trip, issues, chin check, hello)

They totally don't hate each other lol

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who said they hate each other? I said they still deep down hold a grudge.

They absolutely can do all those things you listed while still holding a grudge. And they certainly didn't put out a bunch of records. You listed 4. In 30 years, 4 records. That doesn't exactly scream best friends.

It is one thing if they were both not super rich and still trying to make it for themselves, and their time was super limited in the things they decide to do. Or if they had to pay for studio time and had to be careful who they collaborate with. But that isn't the case at all. Dre doesn't even seem to care about making money off music as he is so rich. So why can't they get together a bit more often to make some classic music? What is stopping that collaboration? IMO, what is stopping it is both refusing to reach out to each other and ask for help/ a favor.

Sccit:

--- Quote from: gfunk2024 on October 05, 2025, 08:16:59 AM ---who said they hate each other? I said they still deep down hold a grudge.

They absolutely can do all those things you listed while still holding a grudge. And they certainly didn't put out a bunch of records. You listed 4. In 30 years, 4 records. That doesn't exactly scream best friends.

It is one thing if they were both not super rich and still trying to make it for themselves, and their time was super limited in the things they decide to do. Or if they had to pay for studio time and had to be careful who they collaborate with. But that isn't the case at all. Dre doesn't even seem to care about making money off music as he is so rich. So why can't they get together a bit more often to make some classic music? What is stopping that collaboration? IMO, what is stopping it is both refusing to reach out to each other and ask for help/ a favor.

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first of all, they were never close friends to begin with

this forum has this idea that just because artists are in a group together or collaborate consistently, that means they must be close friends in real life

not the case...

ice cube has his hands full... u think he wants to just go hang out and make music with dre for fun when he's got businesses, movies, tours, his own music etc to worry about on a daily basis?

i promise you, this doesn't mean they're holding a grudge lol

gfunk2024:

--- Quote from: Sccit on October 05, 2025, 09:19:01 AM ---first of all, they were never close friends to begin with

this forum has this idea that just because artists are in a group together or collaborate consistently, that means they must be close friends in real life

not the case...

ice cube has his hands full... u think he wants to just go hang out and make music with dre for fun when he's got businesses, movies, tours, his own music etc to worry about on a daily basis?

i promise you, this doesn't mean they're holding a grudge lol

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What exactly do you call the Man Down and Man Up albums? If anything business-wise those would be a write-off loss. I'm sure cube didn't make money on those albums in this day in age. So if he has time to make albums, yes, I'm sure he has time to rap over a dre beat. LMAO - you act like it takes longer to rap over a dre beat than it takes to rap over someone else's beat.

I'm not saying they need to be in the studio crafting an entire album together. I'm saying, why can't dre throw a few unused beats at cube?

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